The face of the fish is much too elongated to be 100% Vieja. Vieja zonatus was my first instinctive guess, but after comparing for some time it just didn't fit. The reason I bought this fish is because it looked just as my old Rose Queen did when it was a juvie. The only thing that is different about it thus far is the amount of blue in this fish. Also it's much more aggressive.
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I think it's going to be real tough trying to figure out what this fish has in it. The fin coloration/pattern matches no CA cichlid species. Sometimes a cross has a very obvious resemblence to one or more of it's parents , while other times a cross produces some unique traits, resembling neither parent. One can always speculate, but it's often difficult to be certain what it is a cross of, unless the fish pocessess very obvious traits that are peculiar to a particular species.
I'm not even so sure the fish contains Veija, though it seems quite possible. The horizontal line would seem to suggest it, though there are many other CA cichlids from which this trait could originate from. The way the blue sorounds the black blotches looks like a flower line and might suggest it has flowerhorn ancestory, which would mean it is a mix of MANY CA species. Those that know the various strains of flowerhorn might be able to speculate which strain most resembles your fish, though I certainly couldn't tell you. The mouth/snout , as you have noted, is definately not Veija, but rather, resembles an Amphilophus or other CA species ( from midas?, flowerhorn?, trimac?, mayan?, festae? etc.)
I'm not even so sure the fish contains Veija, though it seems quite possible. The horizontal line would seem to suggest it, though there are many other CA cichlids from which this trait could originate from. The way the blue sorounds the black blotches looks like a flower line and might suggest it has flowerhorn ancestory, which would mean it is a mix of MANY CA species. Those that know the various strains of flowerhorn might be able to speculate which strain most resembles your fish, though I certainly couldn't tell you. The mouth/snout , as you have noted, is definately not Veija, but rather, resembles an Amphilophus or other CA species ( from midas?, flowerhorn?, trimac?, mayan?, festae? etc.)
Anyone who has selectively bred any cichlid knows you don't always get 100% perfect fish. Some of the fry get discarded or sold of as a lower grade. I have a feeling this was a Thai silk fry that didn't meet the standards.
it might be because its younger then the one in the pic i posted the mouth looks the same to meBC in SK;4519142;4519142 said:
The difference in markings/coloration, bodyshape, and mouth/snout shape between the fish in questio and V. zontaum are very numerous. But insteaqd of going through each and every trait/marking and waste a lot of time, I will simply focus on the tail spot.
The tail spot of the the fish in question is CLEARLY NOT Veija/Paratheraps! I blew the pioctures up and looked at them with my reading glasses on
, and the tail spot is oval shaped and ocelated with blue color! Veija/Paratheraps tail spots are sqaure or retangular shaped and are never ocelated with blue or any other color. In very young Veija/Paratheraps specimens, the tail spot is still part of the horizontal stripe until the fish matures and the horizontal stripe begins to fade into black dots -------as shown by the picture of the young V. zontaum on page one.
Of course I'm not claiming the fish in question does not pocess any Veija/Paratheraps genes ( who knows what it might be the product of) but if anyone truely beleives the fish in question to be a pure Veija/Paratheraps species, then show me one picture of a Veija/Paratheraps species with a tail spot like the fish in question ----oval shaped and ocelated with blue.
The tail spot of the the fish in question is CLEARLY NOT Veija/Paratheraps! I blew the pioctures up and looked at them with my reading glasses on
, and the tail spot is oval shaped and ocelated with blue color! Veija/Paratheraps tail spots are sqaure or retangular shaped and are never ocelated with blue or any other color. In very young Veija/Paratheraps specimens, the tail spot is still part of the horizontal stripe until the fish matures and the horizontal stripe begins to fade into black dots -------as shown by the picture of the young V. zontaum on page one.Of course I'm not claiming the fish in question does not pocess any Veija/Paratheraps genes ( who knows what it might be the product of) but if anyone truely beleives the fish in question to be a pure Veija/Paratheraps species, then show me one picture of a Veija/Paratheraps species with a tail spot like the fish in question ----oval shaped and ocelated with blue.
