id this flowerhorn?

[Danzig86]

true true.

 

[BIG_ONE]

hey bro, no offense but how can you said its a bad quality of fader as far as you dont even know the type of it? you making him disappointed, Please stop acting like an expert and you know everything all the FH strain by seeing only in the picture, you always judging in every ID thread without hesitating and telling the fish owner that you know exactly the strain of their fish.

I've seen Kamfa, Red ZZ, Malau and a whole bunch of other faders out there. And the reason why I would not dare to say what type of fader is it because we all don't know what strain is it to be exact with a picture before it faded. But do you need to know the exact strain to tell if it's a good fader?...I highly doubt it. If I claim that it is a Malau fader or so on, then I guess you got every right to point fingers at me for claiming something that can be anything at this point. Or am I wrong on this too?
I will not claim myself to be an expert or whatsoever. But I am giving my knowledge from what I experience, observed, listen and learned from local experts and overseas keepers/breeders.
But if that is how you feel and that is how everyone else feels. I might as well leave everything to you guys and keep my knowledge to myself and others who only come to ask for help from me. I don't want to tell anyone lies that it is great even if you knew it isn't great. Truth can be disappointing and hurtful, but lies is much worst.

 

[mangingisda]

Ooooh really? no i don't need to know because i already do.. yes you are very wrong bro, you judging the fish basing in your own mind... if you like the fish you will say its good, but if you dont like it you will say its bad, just what you did in this thread, i think you dont like the way its faded thats why you said its bad quality of fader but for me and some other people here we're like it, you know why? because its little unique compare to the other common but popular color of fader.

yes sharing of knowledge is our first purpose of why we are here.. but if you think a FH is a bad quality then better to be quiet than hurting and disappointing the owner because we all know that the FH can make a big surprise by blooming their color and popping their humps, just like this thread http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337098

If you are not sure the strain then tell it, don't leave a post that looks like you are 100% sure the strain, especially to the newbie.

 

[BIG_ONE]

Ooooh really? no i don't need to know because i already do.. yes you are very wrong bro, you judging the fish basing in your own mind... if you like the fish you will say its good, but if you dont like it you will say its bad, just what you did in this thread, i think you dont like the way its faded thats why you said its bad quality of fader but for me and some other people here we're like it, you know why? because its little unique compare to the other common but popular color of fader.

yes sharing of knowledge is our first purpose of why we are here.. if you think its a bad then better to be quiet than to disappointing the owner, we all know that the FH can make a surprise bloom on their color just like this thread http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=337098

Is it really huh? Judging from my own mind?...so tell me, is it because I don't reply a post with any humor so it sounds like I'm the cocky person here. Maybe you would like to go search other threads where I mentioned that bad quality fish doesn't matter if you like it. I have nothing against bad quality fish. And yes your correct, bad quality fish can have their own unique look, but I am not judging base on how unique they look. I'm judging base on how what would it be if you took it to a real judge at the show. And I am not even going to say that I can judge the same as a real judge, but the basics for judging is not even hard at all to understand.
So point to me here, where did I jump all over having issues with bad quality fish? And talking about being quiet even if it is a bad or low quality, so what your saying is that it is wise to not say anything. And let them figure the hard way that it is a bad quality fish when they get excited about their fish being a high prized fish? As you have mentioned before, we are all here to promote and educate or share our knowledge with one another. But who says everything about educating with one another have to be positive all the time? Truth is truth, and if you can't accept truth and tell the truth. Then flowerhorn is not for you, because there is bad flowerhorn to grand master flowerhorn flying all over. Best to help one another instead of just being quiet and let them have everything upside down until they figure it out the hard way that they don't have what they think they have.
And of course we all know that flowerhorns can make a surprise bloom. But what does that have anything to do with my knowledge? Did I ever mentioned anything about flowerhorns cannot bloom in the future or so on? And one more thing I would like to ask you, why are you judging me about not liking certain fish and me "BIG_ONE" just claiming any quality of fish base on my likings of the fish or not. Aren't you judging me from your own mind here without any valid truth and just a shot in the dark with what your thinking is going on?...isn't that a little...ignorant?
P.S. - You don't need to know what strain is it because you already knew, so then how come your not telling us what is it? Why keep everything to yourself?

 

[mangingisda]

Is it really huh? Judging from my own mind?...so tell me, is it because I don't reply a post with any humor so it sounds like I'm the cocky person here. Maybe you would like to go search other threads where I mentioned that bad quality fish doesn't matter if you like it. I have nothing against bad quality fish. And yes your correct, bad quality fish can have their own unique look, but I am not judging base on how unique they look. I'm judging base on how what would it be if you took it to a real judge at the show. And I am not even going to say that I can judge the same as a real judge, but the basics for judging is not even hard at all to understand.
So point to me here, where did I jump all over having issues with bad quality fish? And talking about being quiet even if it is a bad or low quality, so what your saying is that it is wise to not say anything. And let them figure the hard way that it is a bad quality fish when they get excited about their fish being a high prized fish? As you have mentioned before, we are all here to promote and educate or share our knowledge with one another. But who says everything about educating with one another have to be positive all the time? Truth is truth, and if you can't accept truth and tell the truth. Then flowerhorn is not for you, because there is bad flowerhorn to grand master flowerhorn flying all over. Best to help one another instead of just being quiet and let them have everything upside down until they figure it out the hard way that they don't have what they think they have.
And of course we all know that flowerhorns can make a surprise bloom. But what does that have anything to do with my knowledge? Did I ever mentioned anything about flowerhorns cannot bloom in the future or so on?
And one more thing I would like to ask you, why are you judging me about not liking certain fish and me "BIG_ONE" just claiming any quality of fish base on my likings of the fish or not. Aren't you judging me from your own mind here without any valid truth and just a shot in the dark with what your thinking is going on?...isn't that a little...ignorant?
P.S. - You don't need to know what strain is it because you already knew, so then how come your not telling us what is it? Why keep everything to yourself?

wow got a lot of question here Sorry im poor in english, so i prefer to answer those easiest. aaaarg Flowerhorn is not for me nyahahaha Yes BOSS i will keep that in my mind forever... you why i like to stop people by saying bad/low grade FH? because i read many cases of disappointing after hearing those words from around the net.


1 example
-Lupin asking an id of his FH, but CONAN replied him (its a low grade FH) without telling the chances of to become a good one.

-since Lupin is disappointed, because he know nothing about FH and he only like to keep a good FH, He sell it in a very low price to his neighbor.

-after a few weeks Lupin visited to his old FH, and he feel another more disappointed, because the FH was turning sooo very nice fader.

Now Boss BIG_ONE, tell me how that CONAN helped LUPIN?

BTW, if you want to know why i judging you, you will know it if review all your post, can't able to point you those because there's so many boss.

@PS, we have miss interpret here, i thought you said a good strain of fader, i didn't meant to the fader in this thread.

 

[BIG_ONE]

I see where your coming from. But wouldn't they be even more disappointing if you knew what it is and never told them what it is in the first place? Isn't it better to tell them from wrong to right so they know what to look for and what to avoid? Or is it better for them to have everything the hard way as I have mentioned before. Of course it would be disappointing at first, but at least they are being educated and learned something new. Can't run away from a problem without fixing it you know?
Oh by the way, I never told anyone to sell the fish or to do what with their fish. I never said that it will bloom or it will not bloom. I never said that it will stay like that forever or it will change. So therefore why I am responsible for something that I point out from what it is currently?
And I did review everything, it is just straight forward without any humor so I can see that people will take it as me being very cocky here. Been there in that kind of situation many times...

 

[mangingisda]

I see where your coming from. But wouldn't they be even more disappointing if you knew what it is and never told them what it is in the first place? Isn't it better to tell them from wrong to right so they know what to look for and what to avoid? Or is it better for them to have everything the hard way as I have mentioned before. Of course it would be disappointing at first, but at least they are being educated and learned something new. Can't run away from a problem without fixing it you know?
Oh by the way, I never told anyone to sell the fish or to do what with their fish. I never said that it will bloom or it will not bloom. I never said that it will stay like that forever or it will change. So therefore why I am responsible for something that I point out from what it is currently?
And I did review everything, it is just straight forward without any humor so I can see that people will take it as me being very cocky here. Been there in that kind of situation many times...

LOL BOSS, by saying bad quality its same as saying those you mentioned above.

I never told anyone to sell the fish or to do what with their fish. I never said that it will bloom or it will not bloom. I never said that it will stay like that forever or it will change.

you know why, because you only said bad quality and not telling the chances.


now you lied , you can't review all your post as fast as a finger flip.

 

[maneee26]

pls share ur pics...

 

[BIG_ONE]

you know why, because you only said bad quality and not telling the chances.

now you lied , you can't review all your post as fast as a finger flip.

What? How did I lied? If I said that it is bad and it will become good and it never did, then you can say that I lied. If I mentioned that it is bad and it will stay bad then all of a sudden it turned out real nice, then you can say that I lied. But I never stated anything, so you tell me how does that make me a liar?

 

[BIG_ONE]

pls share ur pics...

Sorry, me and mangingisda ruined your thread. Since you asked for picture, I will post one of my Kamfamalau...very bad quality picture. But better than nothing.