Get it---------I don't think the 10'' death thing is from feeders. I think it is from new owners and a new to the trade fish. They just have not been around that long. And taking care of them is new to us still. -----Also it would be highly unlikely that you could get it on pellets. I would get it eating good on feeders first for a month or 2 and then move to fish fillet or frozen silver sides or shrimp. If you wanted. For me my reds will stay on feeder minnows, I enjoy watching them eat and its natural to them.
ID this please..looks like Hydrolycus Scomberoides [PICS]
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dude do it this is a cool fish at a large size for cheap if i had the tank and lfs had like 2 or 3 of them i would get them.
hybridtheoryd16;2419228; said:
No one knows what it's from. I bet the # of Scombs imported is 5 FOLD the # of all other Payara put together. Now you're telling me that many are brought in and NO ONE has broken a foot with one and this is because they are "new" to us?
Don't think so.There's NO reason they can't be put on pellets..... Mine ate floating cichlid sticks, freeze dried krill, LOTS of different foods...... Even occasional nightcrawlers.
One thing's sure..... It should be a healthy fish at this size. I'de have it swimming in my tank allready.
Thats is exactly what i was saying before. If armatus were 40 bucks and all over the place there would be deaths popping up everywhere. There is not that many armatus around compared to scombs and we still hear about a death now and then. Back when they were for sale for 50bucks and everybody bought the armatus's like crazy. For the next few weeks everytime you turned around a new dead one popped up. And for that time period when armatus's were more common then previous, death rates on this site out numbered scomb deaths for a while. I remember one member had alot die at once like maybe 6-8 at one time.------------------------Thats like saying that because gold fish have the highest death rate of any freshwater aquarium fish they are no good. Its because of there popularity.------but maybe you are god and i am
A god eh? That's good stuff right there. Definetly no god but I've kept a couple payara. How long have you kept them? You think Scombs are so hardy PLEASE enlighten us with YOUR experience.......
An Armatus death now and then? All deaths were justifyable. There are ZERO accounts of Armatus up and dying for no reason. They are hardy fish that don't much care for small tanks.
Besides John's ordeal with his juvies and waterchanges there are NO accounts. And there is NO payara that are hardy at an inch and a half........
You're missing the point....... Many Scombs out there...... There is NO account of even ONE over a foot and there is a reason for that.
Go ahead and grow one out and prove us all wrong. I don't want to be the one to have to do it..... I allready have a "god" complex......LMAO.
An Armatus death now and then? All deaths were justifyable. There are ZERO accounts of Armatus up and dying for no reason. They are hardy fish that don't much care for small tanks.
Besides John's ordeal with his juvies and waterchanges there are NO accounts. And there is NO payara that are hardy at an inch and a half........
You're missing the point....... Many Scombs out there...... There is NO account of even ONE over a foot and there is a reason for that.
Go ahead and grow one out and prove us all wrong. I don't want to be the one to have to do it..... I allready have a "god" complex......LMAO.
I got my first scomb about 5 years ago when to me they were un heard of. And everything was fine from about 2'' up to 10'' and that took about 2 years believe it or not but they do grow slower after the 6-8'' mark from what I have seen. And then i had the chance to add 2 more about 3 years ago and so i did and in my infancy with payara i did not quarantine the new ones and one of them got a bad case of fin rot and in 2 days time they all had a bacterial infection. So I treated the whole tank with maracyn2 and then a week later all except for one scomb died from a ammonia spike. I learned an important lesson the hard way with antibiotics. The one small scomb that lived thru 4ppm of ammonia and a few smaller spikes after that as the tank was recycling lived for another year and then was finally killed by my florida gar that was 1-1.5'' smaller than the scomb.----------a year and a half ago I purchased 3 more since they now show up locally and raised them from about 4'' to 8-10'' and then sold them back to a eager young employee at my local lfs that wanted them more than I felt they were worth to me. I kept in touch with him for a few months and now he no longer works at the lfs. So I have no way of getting proof of size. But The number i was told breaks the rule, but not by much. So I have had some scombs and had some scombs die as well but I feel at fault for every death.----------only time will tell, but my thinking is that the so called rule is a myth. Also there are a few armatus out there now and they get giant in the wild so who all has broke say 36'' with a armatus. Or can we start a rumor that armatus die for no reason at 30''. All I am really trying to get at is this fish grows past 12'' in the wild but never in aquariums so to me that says we as keepers are missing something.
chonhzilla;2413857; said:This fish was at my LFS hes about 9" I think he's a Hydrolycus Scomberoides but also looks like Hydrolycus tatauaia
can someone please verify this for me. I tried Looking at the identification for it but I'm still puzzled.
Thanks
I have to say....this is one of the first threads where the ID picture is clear and people can easily distinguish what species it is. Most of the time its unclear or etc.....good job on that....makes a big difference....
sevendreamz;2469125; said:I have to say....this is one of the first threads where the ID picture is clear and people can easily distinguish what species it is. Most of the time its unclear or etc.....good job on that....makes a big difference....
no prob
just thought It'll make it easier for everyone.