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You can do a pair of any of the following - Rainbow cichlids, Cryptoheros Sajica, C. myrnae, C. septemfasciatum, C. spilurus, Laetacara curviceps, L. araguaiae, L. dorsiger, L. flavilabris, any species of Apistogramma, either species of Ram or any of the dwarf pike cichlids.

I think Discus Origins might have had C. notophthalmus for sale in the past.

I have a 20 long I was thinking of setting up too. What could go in that?


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Any juveniles of the species I mentioned could start out in a twenty long, but It's probably best to move the Cryptoheros to at least a thirty as they become adults. Fully grown Cryptoheros are larger and a bit more aggressive than either Laetacara or apistos. I recently moved a pair of Cryptoheros myrnae to a 30 long from a twenty they had outgrown.
 
Any juveniles of the species I mentioned could start out in a twenty long, but It's probably best to move the Cryptoheros to at least a thirty as they become adults. Fully grown Cryptoheros are larger and a bit more aggressive than either Laetacara or apistos. I recently moved a pair of Cryptoheros myrnae to a 30 long from a twenty they had outgrown.

What kind of apistos? I know like absolutely nothing about them and I see there is a lot of different types. How many? Should I just buy a group and grow them out and possibly try to breed them in the 20 long?


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Yes you can get a small group and grow them out in the twenty and as pairs form remove the rest. If your new to Apistos your better off starting with any of the species that are captive bred, like A. borellii, A. cacatuoides, or A. Agassizii. I haven't kept Apistos in many years, so I'm not really up to date on species availability, but you can probably find these for sale on Aquabid.com. Also, you can get a lot of useful information at Apistogramma.com.
 
Yes you can get a small group and grow them out in the twenty and as pairs form remove the rest. If your new to Apistos your better off starting with any of the species that are captive bred, like A. borellii, A. cacatuoides, or A. Agassizii. I haven't kept Apistos in many years, so I'm not really up to date on species availability, but you can probably find these for sale on Aquabid.com. Also, you can get a lot of useful information at Apistogramma.com.

All of those are gorgeous 😍especially the borellii and the cacatuoides! How big of a group would you recommend?


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Just a word of advice, don't plan anything too long term if you plan on going to college soon. Luckily I have my brother who will take care of my tank when I go, but unless you do, I'd plan on something less long term than Jags or Cichla or things like that. They can live for over a decade! I'd stick to things with shorter life spans, like the rams or smaller cichlids. But consider those things because right now I may have to tear down at least one aquarium and sell the fish just because I wont be home. Its sad, but If I cant take care of it, then they're better off in a good home, right? However, if you're 100% sure someone will take care of your fish, and you have the means to house them i'd say get what you want. I'm personally a huge fan of the GBR and some apisto species, if you want my $.02
 
Just a word of advice, don't plan anything too long term if you plan on going to college soon. Luckily I have my brother who will take care of my tank when I go, but unless you do, I'd plan on something less long term than Jags or Cichla or things like that. They can live for over a decade! I'd stick to things with shorter life spans, like the rams or smaller cichlids. But consider those things because right now I may have to tear down at least one aquarium and sell the fish just because I wont be home. Its sad, but If I cant take care of it, then they're better off in a good home, right? However, if you're 100% sure someone will take care of your fish, and you have the means to house them i'd say get what you want. I'm personally a huge fan of the GBR and some apisto species, if you want my $.02

Well luckily I'm still a sophomore in highschool and my dad is just as big into fish as I am, I just do all the work right now lol I've done numerous big fish but i want to take it down to the smaller things now and try my hand in breeding


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Well luckily I'm still a sophomore in highschool and my dad is just as big into fish as I am, I just do all the work right now lol I've done numerous big fish but i want to take it down to the smaller things now and try my hand in breeding


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Right on. I'm a senior in hs now, started heavy into it as a sophomore. Its great your dad is into it, good luck with breeding! If you want a real challenge, try breeding rams. They need perfect conditions, a very acidic ph balance, and I believe tannins also help in the water. I had a pair lay eggs a few times but I could never get them to hatch- the parents ate them after a day or two.
 
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