i would like to cross a leo, p14, pearl, or marble with my superspot. i think it would look crazy...
If you could breed any two rays...
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It's always been curious to me that so many people are very critical of creating hybrids of cichlid species, but I never hear any outcry about doing the same thing with rays.....
opsanus;1785672; said:
Potamotrygon are pretty much all 1 species, while alot of hybridization in Cichlids (flowerhorns, BPs, etc) are hybridized between genus making most either infertile, or a some type of 'monstrosity'..
Note that the outcry for selective breeding for coloration (royal green terror, aulonocara) and cross breeding for patterns (discus, angels) is next to nothing, and almost all livebearers are cross bred..
I basically look at Rays like I look at guppies.. Cross em up, make em cool.. It's not like the gene pool is going to get shallow quickly if it takes years to reach maturity.
opsanus;1785672; said:
Another reason is Rays cross breed in the wild on there own. That is why there are so many species that are either undefined or placed into a common group such as motoro. The chances of a green terror and a red devil cross breeding in the aquarium will never happen. You mix a couple of ray species together and you never know what will happen.
hmm..good points guys, and I'm not necessarily against cross-breeding rays...
I was just comparing to mbuna hobbyists that generally abhor hybrids,which usually are of the same genus. But then again, there is the lifespan difference that would keep the ray genepool stronger. I just wonder about the optimum future so many envision, when the overwhelming majority of fw rays sold are captive bred. How many folks will be selling identifiable species, vs. hybrid "potomotrygon sp.", each individual looking different. It could end up being analogous to diamondback terrapin subspecies distribution along the eastern seaboard, which I'm way to lazy to explain unless anyone is interested.
I was just comparing to mbuna hobbyists that generally abhor hybrids,which usually are of the same genus. But then again, there is the lifespan difference that would keep the ray genepool stronger. I just wonder about the optimum future so many envision, when the overwhelming majority of fw rays sold are captive bred. How many folks will be selling identifiable species, vs. hybrid "potomotrygon sp.", each individual looking different. It could end up being analogous to diamondback terrapin subspecies distribution along the eastern seaboard, which I'm way to lazy to explain unless anyone is interested.
opsanus;1787338; said:hmm..good points guys, and I'm not necessarily against cross-breeding rays...
I was just comparing to mbuna hobbyists that generally abhor hybrids,which usually are of the same genus. But then again, there is the lifespan difference that would keep the ray genepool stronger. I just wonder about the optimum future so many envision, when the overwhelming majority of fw rays sold are captive bred. How many folks will be selling identifiable species, vs. hybrid "potomotrygon sp.", each individual looking different. It could end up being analogous to diamondback terrapin subspecies distribution along the eastern seaboard, which I'm way to lazy to explain unless anyone is interested.
Im interested but perhaps its better to start another thread in the proper forum...
Mixed rays take 4 gens at least before 80% of th epups look similar. It's sucha gamble, no wonder asians love it.
But the results can be spectacular and unique. You may not get a simliar one even if the parents mate again.
I'll go for PDR X Pearl, with siblings crossed back to Henlei or PDR again. I'm trying desperately to get a few of these suckers.
But the results can be spectacular and unique. You may not get a simliar one even if the parents mate again.
I'll go for PDR X Pearl, with siblings crossed back to Henlei or PDR again. I'm trying desperately to get a few of these suckers.
