Ill RTC I think he might be dieing

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roybryan;1111565; said:
looks like gill flair it is usually because of poor water quality a pet shop in alabama has one with that.


Thats not GILL CURL. I have a small RTC with bad gill curl and thats definately not it. That looks like a irritation of sorts. I'm a far cry from a fishy doc but his gills are not curling. On my guy you can see his left side gills clear as day and the flap is rolled back about a 1/2". I see NO curling in your pics, just some red irritation ???? Stick with the meds and see what happens. Good luck he looks like a cutie.


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I agree with Bgonz this does not appear to be gill curl it looks like an external bacterial infection that may have started as an irritation from the sand in the tank as suggested by TLkmDN. On the other hand many internal infections in fish can appear with external symptoms so if the Melafix and frequent water changes as suggested by Necrocanis does not work you may want to consider the following. Freshwater water fish poorly absorb antibiotics from the water so treatment by wrapping the antibiotic in food is the best approach assuming the fish is eating. In my experiece it takes quite alot for an RTC in an established system with good water quality to stop eating. Unless there is an internal infection or a more substantial looking ext infection bacterial or parasitic. I am sure there maybe exceptions. If this ends up being a suspected parasitic infection by process of elimination and response to other medications Prazipro is a great choice this works quickly on parasitic infections even if the fish is not eating. Hopefully the Melafix will cure it and that will be the end of it. If not the above comments are just my opinion based on whats worked for me in the past. Sometimes despite our best efforts in caring for these regal fish they get ill like everything else alive.
 
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Latest readings are

PH 6
GH 60
KH 0
NH3 NH4 More than 7.3 mg/L :eek:
NO2 0
NO3 160

Using the Melafix and he's perked up and done a 20% water change but this still hasn't brought the Ammonia levels into check.
Heading down to the local shop in a few minutes to try and a solution for the ammonia problem.

According to the charts the NH3 NH4 level is still "Safe" because of the Ph level??
 
TLkmDN He's about 18.5 - 19 inch long in a 72x24x24 at the moment his next tank will be hopefully an 84x30x42 problems sourcing a good manufacturer at a reasonable price though.
 
UncleNos;1130044; said:
Latest readings are

PH 6
GH 60
KH 0
NH3 NH4 More than 7.3 mg/L :eek:
NO2 0
NO3 160

Using the Melafix and he's perked up and done a 20% water change but this still hasn't brought the Ammonia levels into check.
Heading down to the local shop in a few minutes to try and a solution for the ammonia problem.

According to the charts the NH3 NH4 level is still "Safe" because of the Ph level??
Your "solution" for the ammonia problem should be to get that tank cycled properly. The presence of NO3 (nitrate) means that possibly the tank was cycled before, but that now it is "recycling" due to extreme ammounts of ammonia being introduced to the system after the addition of the RTC. If you have another established filter from another tank I would suggest moving it to this one. What kind of filtration are you using?

BTW, if there are any detectable levels of ammonia in a system, it is not "safe." That chart is bull****. Ammonia can be less toxic at certain pH levels, but it is always a toxic substance.
 
madwhitehat;1130298; said:
Your "solution" for the ammonia problem should be to get that tank cycled properly. The presence of NO3 (nitrate) means that possibly the tank was cycled before, but that now it is "recycling" due to extreme ammounts of ammonia being introduced to the system after the addition of the RTC. If you have another established filter from another tank I would suggest moving it to this one. What kind of filtration are you using?

BTW, if there are any detectable levels of ammonia in a system, it is not "safe." That chart is bull****. Ammonia can be less toxic at certain pH levels, but it is always a toxic substance.


I recently expirienced this problem when my big hybrid fasted for unknown reasons. Everything checked out but about 3 weeks later when he started to eat again the ammonia and everything else spiked and I was afraid I was going to lose him. I seeded his tank from my other pond every water change and now it's cycled again. I was really scared though. Now he's eating like a champ again. I think he had an intestinal block because my old roomated tried to feed him too many shrimp with the tails on, and it's hard for them to digest and if they don't pass them they can pack in their intestines until digested or thrown up.
 
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