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I had mouthbrooding bettas once, Betta Simplex I believe.. They were admittedly more graceful and less aggressive that splendens, but also honestly boring for the novice I was at the time. Now I wish I still had them.

As for macrostoma, those who catch and ship wild males would be your best channel for finding a pair. Breeders do , indeed, sell males and not females. But a fisherman could care less about what does and doesn't the market because his monopoly isn't all on one species but on the natural product of his territory. So find out a good source for wild caught bettas and see who knows a guy who knows a guy. Verify customer feedback as these are not cheap bettas. Is Wisconsin a hardwater state? You might want to find out before you purchase softwater species. Or do you have RO, water softeners, etc.? Heck, can you melt snow for tank water? I don't even know!

No, I haven't had experience with most of those species, including macrostoma.


Not powerfeeding, just had to feed them something besides whatever they are already eating, I felt. Adding more daphnia tonight, the fry have become able to eat the smaller individuals.

Casualties are expected. Once certain fry are large enough, they eat the smaller ones. Eventually it gets down to the 20 or so largest babies. Works for me.

My lfs has lots of croaking gouramies. Many are large and colorful with good form and health. You want some? If you have the money to send, I can buy them for you now and hold them until after you move. I've learned how to ship fish now, so it's totally doable if you want to do that.

I don't have experience, but I've read the literature and would recommend buying six to get a pair. Sexual differences are supposedly very small and it's just best to let them figure it out themselves.


I almost forgot, I bred angelfish, too!
 
knifegill;4920169; said:
I had mouthbrooding bettas once, Betta Simplex I believe.. They were admittedly more graceful and less aggressive that splendens, but also honestly boring for the novice I was at the time. Now I wish I still had them.

As for macrostoma, those who catch and ship wild males would be your best channel for finding a pair. Breeders do , indeed, sell males and not females. But a fisherman could care less about what does and doesn't the market because his monopoly isn't all on one species but on the natural product of his territory. So find out a good source for wild caught bettas and see who knows a guy who knows a guy. Verify customer feedback as these are not cheap bettas. Is Wisconsin a hardwater state? You might want to find out before you purchase softwater species. Or do you have RO, water softeners, etc.? Heck, can you melt snow for tank water? I don't even know!

No, I haven't had experience with most of those species, including macrostoma.


Not powerfeeding, just had to feed them something besides whatever they are already eating, I felt. Adding more daphnia tonight, the fry have become able to eat the smaller individuals.

Casualties are expected. Once certain fry are large enough, they eat the smaller ones. Eventually it gets down to the 20 or so largest babies. Works for me.

My lfs has lots of croaking gouramies. Many are large and colorful with good form and health. You want some? If you have the money to send, I can buy them for you now and hold them until after you move. I've learned how to ship fish now, so it's totally doable if you want to do that.

I don't have experience, but I've read the literature and would recommend buying six to get a pair. Sexual differences are supposedly very small and it's just best to let them figure it out themselves.


I almost forgot, I bred angelfish, too!

I've never heard of the Simplex. Am I missing out on anything on these by purchasing the others without taking the Simplex into consideration?

Do you have any recommendations of macrostoma breeder's or fishermen in mind for WC macrostomas? If not, it's going to take some hard research to find these.

What a comedian!! Melt the snow in Wisconsin for my tanks? HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! The majority of it will be gone before I get back home to WI. My brother's are helping me move home. But, our mother won't allow us to do this until road conditions are better and free of ice and snow, so I will just have to see what the next 6 to 8 week of weather brings us.

As far as the water quality for WI, I'm not able to answer that question personally, but from what my youngest brother, Mark has told me, the water should be okay to use right from the tap. I'm not going to say I can't rely on his word, but once I get settled in back home, I can get it tested for my tanks.

I am seriously going to try and get a commercial RO set up with about two - 1,000 gallon storage tanks inside of a pump house for tank water changes and general purpose household usage. It'll be a great challenge and a few good DIY projects for me and my brother's to work on throughout the rest of this year. My new house and new fish room, is going to need to get built as well, so it looks like I be busy once I get home and get started on things.

A varried diet is definitely one favorable key to having healthy fish, i must agree. What else are they eating beside daphnia and egg yolk?

I guess when you think about it, only the strong do survive so in retrospect, there would be casualties. It'd be nice if there were none, but that would be changing the natural order of a fish's life cycle.

As far as the quantity of croaking gourami's, I was thinking of 12 or so. Your buy now ship later offer sounds really terrific, but right now I only have a dry 110 gal. tank. I promised my parents I'd set it up for them, when I'm relocated and settled in. Then, once I get my new house, fish room and etc. built, then I'll see about taking you up on your offer, if I can get a "rain check" on it until later this year. That way I can get more and larger tanks set up and established with enough room for everyone. Just to many fun and exciting variables at the moment. So if I can take you up on your offer in about 5 to 6 months from now, I'm game.

I have know it's hard to determine the gender's of many fish species, so I would agree, they know who they are and I'd just let them do what they do best in pairing off. I find it interesting to observe when they pair up, though. Speculating on who's who, and then finding the results not at all of what I thought. Like I said, they do it best.

Thanks for the feed back and I'll catch ya on the other side! ~ David
 
I don't know how I'm supposed to feed them when they are always already full! Watch photos for daphnia!


Aiming at the daphnia-
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See those bubbles?! This is the same algae that forms mats on stagnant ponds and puddles. It. Is. The Boss. I brought it home last summer and have been moving it from tank to tank by seeding.
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Full tank shot, from the end. Tank is about 8% sponge filter.
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Fry shots. Look closely!
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Thanks!

The fry have now entered the cannibalism phase and I have two huge fry and several medium-sized fry, just a few tiny ones left.
 
Fry are looking more like fish now! This isn't even the best example, he was just the only one posing for me. Deeper body, huge belly, large eyes. This is their cutest stage, IMO.

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How big until they color up? Some are 1" already and still silvery. Albino or late bloomers?
 
Just a few lazy fun shots for progress' sake. The biggest is about an inch long, they grow daily.








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Been feeding them to my electric cat. Moved mom and dad into a 30g and they drew a line down the middle for territory. It's funny to watch one go into the others' side and get chased out, then peace return.

Bad photos, cool fish. They have actually bred in here and I see fry growing out in the lettuce.

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