I'm a little confused.

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I dont get it.
Helping create a market for such an endangered turtle, by buying one would go against my morals big time, no matter if its legal or not.
I think fish are facinating creatures, Many species are being captive bred, and im not against wild caught either, i am how ever against critically endangered ones.

Hey agree to disagree on that aspect man. I have no urge to own a FRT so to me if there are measures in place to stop the illegal smuggling, cool, and if someone wants one here in the states and they get one legally, also cool lol. All species will eventually run itno a problem if we collect from the wild for any length of time...as pomatomus said...its only when we go to far do we start to take notice..
 
alright now you know what I mean...I'm not saying the aren't illegal species all over the US...I'm saying if I can LEGALLY purchase one without the fear of federal sanctions..

Ah I see,and I wasn't trying to be wise guy or anything the post just seemed as if you were under the impression that one could just walk into a pet store and expect to purchase one.
 
Ah I see,and I wasn't trying to be wise guy or anything the post just seemed as if you were under the impression that one could just walk into a pet store and expect to purchase one.

mhm i bet haha. No I'm not saying if I reeeeeeeally wanted to live on the edge that I couldn't track down an asian aro and probably 16 different channa species right around here in PA somewhere lol but if I can legally purchase a FRT from somewhere, even if its from a federal agent running an LFS in his free time, and not be arrested then of course people are going to do that lol.

(Won't lie, before I just read like 8 articles on the matter, I was under that very impression lol because I've heard of a lot of people owning them here with no problems...)
 
All species will eventually run itno a problem if we collect from the wild for any length of time...as pomatomus said...its only when we go to far do we start to take notice..

It would be nice if one of the turtle breeders could get a few pairs to reproduce...They could flood the market and drastically slash the poaching of wild specimens.
 
It would be nice if one of the turtle breeders could get a few pairs to reproduce...They could flood the market and drastically slash the poaching of wild specimens.

Agreed, from the speed research I just did, 3 people have successfully bred them but never had them up for sale so as of right meow there are no licensed breeders anywhere.
 
Although it's been talked about quite a bit here and there are threads on the topic,I don't remember what it is but whatever their status is here possessing one does not seem to be as severe as those other animals that you've mentioned.
 
Although it's been talked about quite a bit here and there are threads on the topic,I don't remember what it is but whatever their status is here possessing one is not seem to be as severe as those other animals that you've mentioned.

If the paperwork on them is legal they are completely legal here in the US. Sometimes customs stops the imports, other times they don't, meaning that all of the turtles in the states are "grey area'ed" out of their native habitat and either allowed in or not. once they are here they can be purchased completely legally. Just from what I read however I'm sure there are loop holes and whatnot.
 
It's true. Fishkeeping is no different. There are still many species that are being harvested that really shouldn't such as wild-caught roseline sharks (from some locales) and banggai cardinalfish. However, humans don't realize our impact until it becomes an issue. Then we start thinking about sustainability. Now you have the University of Florida trying to breed roselines and ORA trying to breed banggais. The same thing happened with celestial pearl danios and now nobody sells wild ones. Maybe one day the fly river turtle breeding program will catch up to the demand.

It's the demand for an unobtainable animal that drives us to reproduce them in captivity.

Univ. of Hawaii has been breeding Banngai cardinals for many years.
 
That's interesting.I would love to be able to acquire a few and keep them in some kind of outdoor enclosure if I lived in the right part of the country climate wise...but that's all hypothetical lol.
 
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