Judge Holden;4493061; said:
Low risk. I can count on one hand the references I've seen to wild caught fish at a lfs. Doesn't happen.
I don't understand the splitting hairs reference - its not a small difference.
I'm thinking of trying to Breed Wild Oscars
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Low risk. I can count on one hand the references I've seen to wild caught fish at a lfs. Doesn't happen.
I don't understand the splitting hairs reference - its not a small difference.
And I don't understand the need to conceptually disambiguate internet posts that people lash off in 20 seconds. Consider the following:
A)
I demand an explanation of this false statement!
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In my initial post I wanted to remind the OP that wild fish have issues of their own. Some people seek them hoping to avoid health problems arising from inbreeding and other careless practices. However, domesticated Oscars have had over a century to adapt to higher nitrates. Though I have no studies to cite, and the plural of anecdote is not data, by means of Pure Reason I hypothesize that wild Oscars will be more prone to HITH and other problems -- if their water is not kept in a state of Amazonian purity. For this reason alone I would never keep a wild fish.
As an addendum, I tacked on the (perhaps tautological) point that their fry will not be wild.
A)
B)
According to the Law of the Excluded Middle, either A or B is true but not both. http://www.chaos.org.uk/~eddy/math/found/reductio.html
I demand an explanation of this false statement!
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In my initial post I wanted to remind the OP that wild fish have issues of their own. Some people seek them hoping to avoid health problems arising from inbreeding and other careless practices. However, domesticated Oscars have had over a century to adapt to higher nitrates. Though I have no studies to cite, and the plural of anecdote is not data, by means of Pure Reason I hypothesize that wild Oscars will be more prone to HITH and other problems -- if their water is not kept in a state of Amazonian purity. For this reason alone I would never keep a wild fish.
As an addendum, I tacked on the (perhaps tautological) point that their fry will not be wild.
My wild O is fine with his nitrAtes flexing between 10ppm and 20ppm like any Oscar should experience. Captive bred Oscars are often seriously inbred and just as prone to HITH, it seems.
You would laugh if you knew how many fish in your LFS are wild caught. It's a big number. Many catfish and tetras for sure.
You would laugh if you knew how many fish in your LFS are wild caught. It's a big number. Many catfish and tetras for sure.
Judge Holden;4495413; said:And I don't understand the need to conceptually disambiguate internet posts that people lash off in 20 seconds. Consider the following:
A) B) According to the Law of the Excluded Middle, either A or B is true but not both. http://www.chaos.org.uk/~eddy/math/found/reductio.html
I demand an explanation of this false statement!
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In my initial post I wanted to remind the OP that wild fish have issues of their own. Some people seek them hoping to avoid health problems arising from inbreeding and other careless practices. However, domesticated Oscars have had over a century to adapt to higher nitrates. Though I have no studies to cite, and the plural of anecdote is not data, by means of Pure Reason I hypothesize that wild Oscars will be more prone to HITH and other problems -- if their water is not kept in a state of Amazonian purity. For this reason alone I would never keep a wild fish.
As an addendum, I tacked on the (perhaps tautological) point that their fry will not be wild.
couldn't you just label the fry F1s? meaning fry from wild parents.
I have wild fish, and haven't had any sign of hith where as my store bought oscar has hith.
Judge Holden;4495413; said:
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Judge Holden;4492954; said:
Thanks for the clarification. I can't believe I missed this from your original post. Good info, thanks for sharing.
I'm wondering if there are instances of HITH in Oscars (or any cichlids) living in the wild ...
(If anyone knows maybe they should start a new thread. I don't want to jack this one.)
(If anyone knows maybe they should start a new thread. I don't want to jack this one.)
Judge Holden;4495832; said:
If i am remember correctly, i believe there is, but not very much. Hith can be a parasite, but i don't know if thats in the wild or not.
But i think it would be good for someone to breed wilds, it would be nice to see some more F1 oscars.
