Insane arapaima aquaculture faculty in the US

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Educate people regarding the needs of the fish they want to keep, by all means. Exhort them, shame them, plead with them...but when you start deciding that some person or body of persons should have the ability to mandate your behaviour and your choices, you are on the proverbial slippery slope and you're already rocketing downhill on your backside.

Speaking from the perspective or a person who owns and uses and enjoys a number of items that come under this type of overbearing scrutiny...guns, motorcycles, snakes...cars!...dogs!!!!...I can tell you right now that the next step is inevitable: video footage of soccer moms shaking their fists, brandishing placards, demanding to know why you "need" these items.

Guess what? You don't need them; they aren't required for your health or survival in almost all cases. The people who keep them do so because they want them. And in anything resembling a free society, that should be sufficient reason as long as they don't endanger other people.

Half the people who lust after stuff like snakeheads, Asian arowanas, piranhas, etc. seem to do so simply because they can't have them. As soon as the fish in question becomes cheaply and readily available, they'll move on to some other variety of unobtainium and start wringing their hands about their inability to get that. And that's okay too; folks like that will never get what they want, because they only want what they can't get.

But, sure, go ahead and pass laws making the keeping of certain fish illegal. Banning stuff always works well. Prohibition was a roaring success; expand on that model! This time I'll be ready. I'll make a fortune selling placards and advertising space to the squeaky-wheel faction of society; I'll call my enterprise "Billboards for Busybodies!"

I can already see my company slogan: "Can't mind your own business? Is your nose too short to stick it into other people's lives as far as you would like? Self-righteous meddling is fun and fulfilling...WE CAN HELP!!!"
 
“sustainable” fish supply is a good thing IMO… less “harm” to wild populations. The worry is farm fish escaping during floods. Fish destined to die are just that… food or “personal enjoyment”… there made to die anyway. Someone keeping one at home is actually prolonging their eminent demise lol… “food” is wasted every day, its really no different. The good thing is its not wild fish going through the “process”. Most every other country is light years ahead of the U.S. for fish farming. Its good to see articles like this. “Enjoy the benifits” so to speak as a fish keeper lol… ??‍♂️. “Fish stores” will always b fish stores, its just a business like any other.
We dont get to choose who is a “sustainable” customer… everyone has the “right” to be. We surely do not need someone deciding that for us either… Again these fish are made to die. Compare it to chickens or cows… its just food. If you wanna “play” with ur food in a box of water then flush it, knock urself out lol… saying “fish keeping” should only be for a certain group of people is ridiculous. We have enough bs laws and hoops to jump through already even if u are “qualified”… Why support the opposition to make things worse for the every day “consumer”. Why does the “scale” of fish matter to people who support the industry by keeping fish. Its all the same. Are u concerned for the “welfare” of say tetras ?… millions prob die on their way to the lfs, its just buisness. There “smaller” so their “welfare” is overlooked. Once u “open that door” it doesn’t end well for people who enjoy keeping fish in a box at home.
Ur advocating ur own rights being taken away lol… do u wanna pay for a yearly permit to keep goldfish and have ur home randomly inspected by authorities at will. Thats the ladder ??‍♂️… no bueno. Im all for proper husbandry… i get it… im afraid were going to far with it these days tho. I respect your respect for animal welfare also ??… the problem is those “in charge” have zero respect for ur well being or that of a fish. Its just about money…
Who gets to decide what “proper housing requirements” are for anything. Thats your own right and opinion. My main point is this right/opinion should not be pre determined for u.

this is an argument I have had many times on this forum. The people who decide what’s right and wrong seem to be the new generation of MFK know it all’s.

I’m surprised none of them have mentioned the 200+ arapaimas in that pond. They each need a pond for themselves…
 
The people who decide what’s right and wrong seem to be the new generation of MFK know it all’s.



LOL @ MFK know it all's --- but who here at MFK is deciding anything, regarding right or wrong? Those decisions certainly won't be made here on MFK.


Educate people regarding the needs of the fish they want to keep, by all means. Exhort them, shame them, plead with them...but when you start deciding that some person or body of persons should have the ability to mandate your behaviour and your choices, you are on the proverbial slippery slope and you're already rocketing downhill on your backside.

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It's going to depend on how popular Peruvian Sea Bass are to eat. If a 50kg fish sells for $10 per kilo with strong demand, the fish farmer would have to sell babies for $500 or lose sales.

Nice to see these enterprises as it's ensuring survival of a CITES listed species. As well as feeding the planet and reducing depletion from the wild. Looks pretty tasty.
 
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this is an argument I have had many times on this forum. The people who decide what’s right and wrong seem to be the new generation of MFK know it all’s.

I’m surprised none of them have mentioned the 200+ arapaimas in that pond. They each need a pond for themselves…

Never thought id have to “advocate fish keeping” so much on a fish keeping forum ??… tough crowd these days i agree
 
It’s a slippery slope, be careful what you wish for.
I agree as I do with wednesday13 wednesday13 , jjohnwm jjohnwm and Lepisosteus Lepisosteus as well. I'm not so quick to say it's the younger generation though as it just seems to be the way society in general is leaning now at days. Some people are far too accepting of and are even going so far as proposing outside involvement in our daily lives. Essentially giving up the civil liberties, inalienable rights and freedoms that we once cherished. Not realizing as you said Neil, it's a slippery slope.
 
I'm too much of a snob to eat pond fish, my taste buds are too refined. Wild caught or be damned!
 
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