Sorry if i came off hard, but it seemed like you were directing it at me when you said what u said. U can say what u want it's a free world but don't get mad when someone like me says something. I may not like a certain fish but I don't go on thread and talk smack about it. I read the thread try to pick up some info I may have not known and leave it as it is. I love all Cichla. My favorite is Orinos, reason why I own 3 different variations. I would also love to own an wc xingu as well. And as far as all these intermedia you have seen being bland to you, could it be they might not really shine in captivity?? All the wild pics I've seen of them they are stunning. Who really knows since the last time these were here was years ago. Location as well is going to the play major factor of what they will look like. So maybe the ones that were first collected years ago weren't the really really nice wild ones you have seen in pics. It's hard to really say. All I know is I'm glad to see them back in the hobby once again. I hope they will stay around for a bit like xingus (which are actually kinda getting hard to come by again), azuls
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