Is chocolate albino leo rare?

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crinkles7lug;2321596; said:
Any pics of the pick up?

Not yet, I ended up working OT yesterday so I couldn't get him.

Tonight I'll get him, and some pics will be up :)
 
reptech;2317714; said:
lol i also do gargoles,amel fattails,bearded dragons,redtail boas,and just picked up a pair of adult red tegus who should give babies next year
doubt the reds will breed. who sexed them? how big are they? as far as i know tegus are pretty much impossible to sex until you actually see them in action. ive always thought breeding tegus was like seeing jesus twice.

btw i had an "albino chocolate" really cool looking adults!
 
reptech;2319902; said:
most of my stuff is at my two frens houses i can do a striped garg. for $60
dang, up here in Canada the cheapest one i can find is 150 :(
 
crenipterus svenagalus;2322881; said:
doubt the reds will breed. who sexed them? how big are they? as far as i know tegus are pretty much impossible to sex until you actually see them in action. ive always thought breeding tegus was like seeing jesus twice.

btw i had an "albino chocolate" really cool looking adults!
they where sexed by the people they came from males have spures females dont
 
reptech;2316559; said:
the warmer the temp the darker the color

Incorrect, the warmer the temp the lighter (less pigment formation) the coloration. This has been correlated with incubation temps as well...

The so called "chocolates" were common around 1999-2001 when Tremper first started releasing his line of albino. The chocolates are essentially normal tremper albinos; or rather what were once normal tremper albinos. Ron [Tremper] came up with an incubation regime a few years ago to basically combat the stereotype of his line being known as brown and to produce the brightly colored albinos one can see today. Ironically the coloration due to his incubation method seems to be genetic in some way too. Also ironic is that fact that some well-known breeders have tried to replicate his means of incubation for brighter, non-brown tremper albinos which resulted in a high number of birth defects and other abnormalities for these individuals.

These were my Tremper albinos circa 2000 or 2001; I sold them a few years back due to not wanting to work with what I personally felt was an ugly representation of albinism.

Tremper-Albinos.jpg


The female is the lighter colored (in shed within photo) and was purchased from Ron in 1999 for a robbery of $1000.00 for an animal that wasn't suppose to turn brown. The male was purchased in 2001 or 2002 from Albey Scholl for something like $450 I think.

I personally don't care for the browning of the Tremper line and after owning it and the Rainwater, sometimes called Las Vegas, albino line, I prefer the Rainwater strain. I do also like the coloration of the Bell line, but it's also a "brown" line. Ironically, for those that don't know, all 3 strains are tyrosine positive albinos and all 3 are incompatible with one another in breeding, i.e., if you combine the strains you get normal pigmented off spring, but if you breed like strain ti like strain you'll produce albinos.
 
wait... did you mean you robbed him, or he robbed you?
 
TokayKeeper;2325148; said:
Incorrect, the warmer the temp the lighter (less pigment formation) the coloration. This has been correlated with incubation temps as well...

The so called "chocolates" were common around 1999-2001 when Tremper first started releasing his line of albino. The chocolates are essentially normal tremper albinos; or rather what were once normal tremper albinos. Ron [Tremper] came up with an incubation regime a few years ago to basically combat the stereotype of his line being known as brown and to produce the brightly colored albinos one can see today. Ironically the coloration due to his incubation method seems to be genetic in some way too. Also ironic is that fact that some well-known breeders have tried to replicate his means of incubation for brighter, non-brown tremper albinos which resulted in a high number of birth defects and other abnormalities for these individuals.

These were my Tremper albinos circa 2000 or 2001; I sold them a few years back due to not wanting to work with what I personally felt was an ugly representation of albinism.

Tremper-Albinos.jpg


The female is the lighter colored (in shed within photo) and was purchased from Ron in 1999 for a robbery of $1000.00 for an animal that wasn't suppose to turn brown. The male was purchased in 2001 or 2002 from Albey Scholl for something like $450 I think.

I personally don't care for the browning of the Tremper line and after owning it and the Rainwater, sometimes called Las Vegas, albino line, I prefer the Rainwater strain. I do also like the coloration of the Bell line, but it's also a "brown" line. Ironically, for those that don't know, all 3 strains are tyrosine positive albinos and all 3 are incompatible with one another in breeding, i.e., if you combine the strains you get normal pigmented off spring, but if you breed like strain ti like strain you'll produce albinos.
makes sense
 
reptech;2323068; said:
they where sexed by the people they came from males have spures females dont
got to be honest, everything i have read has put that theory to rest. tegus cannot be sexed until they are adults and they need to be probed. sorry to derail.
 
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