Is Cleaning Gravel Necessary?

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And natural colored gravel looks nice, in my own humble opinion, I'm not giving mine up either. Laticauda's tanks look nice 'cause she still has plants and things going on in her bare bottom tanks. I don't care for the totally bare tanks, looks like a market tank to me. Though, the folks who rock them around here always have drool worthy stock, so maybe that's why they do it, to keep from detracting from the fish?
 
knifegill;4782703; said:
I was a big promoter of barebottom setups for a long time. But now I really like the look of sand and will be using it in my 125 once it's resealed. Has the same effect, turds just sit on top and you can turkey baster them out or set up currents to collect them. I just think that a little anaerobic denitrification simply must be tried...and the sand looks nice.
From my understanding, the only time denitrifying bacteria works/colonates, is in SW environments.
Otherwise, pockets of noxious gasses form, and when released cause toxicity/death in freshwater/brackish environments.

Tread carefully, my friend.
 
GolemGolem;4782734; said:
And natural colored gravel looks nice, in my own humble opinion, I'm not giving mine up either. Laticauda's tanks look nice 'cause she still has plants and things going on in her bare bottom tanks. I don't care for the totally bare tanks, looks like a market tank to me. Though, the folks who rock them around here always have drool worthy stock, so maybe that's why they do it, to keep from detracting from the fish?

yes! natural gravel ftw! haha it is pretty... and the most expensive.... -_-
 
Laticauda;4782746; said:
From my understanding, the only time denitrifying bacteria works/colonates, is in SW environments.
Otherwise, pockets of noxious gasses form, and when released cause toxicity/death in freshwater/brackish environments.

Tread carefully, my friend.

Freshwater denitrifying bacteria produce hydrogen sulfide. Nasty stuff. Although I do believe there is a species that only produces CO2, and maybe some H2O, but it needs a steady diet of glucose. I don't think you can just dissolve sugar in your aquarium and call it a day though...
 
josephjeon;4782766; said:
yes! natural gravel ftw! haha it is pretty... and the most expensive.... -_-
Not if you go to Walmart, and buy peagravel...that's what I did!

I never buy aquarium gravel (or most other things labeled "for aquariums" since it's such a racket and a rip-off!)
 
There are no actual reports of an anaerobic bubble ever killing a fish. Yes, they are loaded with nasty, but the two seconds they spend in the water column just isn't enough time to get many molecule's worth of sulfide or whatever it is into the tank. I've got a bubbling sand bed in my 5g planted rimless and the puffers and catfish are doing well, the puffers even flirt quite often. Every few hours, a bubble comes popping up through the sand and escapes. I strongly believe that tales of gas bubbles alone killing fish are true. Now if I went in there like an idiot and stirred that nasty black mess up I'd expect serious problems. But I don't. I just let it denitrify and it is far more help than harm. Yeah, it might be a roll of the dice, but I've got the guts to do it. And so far so good.
 
knifegill;4782797; said:
There are no actual reports of an anaerobic bubble ever killing a fish. Yes, they are loaded with nasty, but the two seconds they spend in the water column just isn't enough time to get many molecule's worth of sulfide or whatever it is into the tank. I've got a bubbling sand bed in my 5g planted rimless and the puffers and catfish are doing well, the puffers even flirt quite often. Every few hours, a bubble comes popping up through the sand and escapes. I strongly believe that tales of gas bubbles alone killing fish are true. Now if I went in there like an idiot and stirred that nasty black mess up I'd expect serious problems. But I don't. I just let it denitrify and it is far more help than harm. Yeah, it might be a roll of the dice, but I've got the guts to do it. And so far so good.

I don't think the gas itself kills the fish, but hydrogen sulfide is water soluble, and acidifies the water, so as the bubbles float up, some of the H2S dissolves into the water and lowers the pH, and if it lowers it enough, you could shock your fish with a huge pH swing the next time you do a large water change.

A 5g isn't a lot, but someone with a really big tank shouldn't do this unless the room the tank is in is very well ventilated, as H2S is poisonous and flammable.
 
Heh. My house is breezier than a hospital gown. Does H2S sink or rise?
 
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