ive been in the navy for two years now and my question is to people who have been in or understand how PTS or perform to serve works. anyone feel free though to respond. is pts unconstitutional and is serving my country a right or a privilage? the navy is the only branch that does this. basically how eligability to re-enlist is determined is by use of an evaluation system as well as physical readiness tests and advancement exams. typically what determines an eval score is professionalism, military appearance, work ethic and knowlage level to your speciffic job as well as the physical readiness tests. unfortunately these evals are just words on paper and sometimes with flawed distributing do to politics (aka ass kissery and best friendalism), but they mean everything to an individual in order to keep the navy a career. and to be promoted to e-4 and above you must have good evals as well as get good scores on advancment exams. which are graded by tossing out the questions that the majority got right and counting the most challenging questions only. which means that 90 out of 100 questions correct could still land you a score of 50% depending on how the rest of the navy did. i however beacuse of this bull **** am going to extend for one year at my last command as an e-4 so ill have six years by then and will be eligable to recieve a higher tenior check and have more time to save up. i wanted to make the navy a career but am tired of jumping through hoops and fighting in an everyman for himself environment. i wont do this to my family for 20 years. what do you think about this crap?
is it a right or a privilage to serve?
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privilage but no offense your gonna hate the Navy, Air Force is the way to go but watch some Marine is gonna try to trash talk me haha
totally agreed with the airforce. i originally wanted to join the cost guard but wouldnt take me because i have a ged.
i have mixed feelings for the navy. i am very proud to be a sailor and of what i do but there is so much bull to deal with. i love the navy but if i could make a few changes i deffinately would lol. anyway why do you say its a privilage? obviously im not saying lets take on the pedophiles, serial killers and handicapped folk. with some obvious exemptions do you agree that it should be a privilage?
Priveledge.....I am Air Force and there is a similar system (Performance Appraisal System) here. Not ran the same as the Navy though. From my experience, if you keep you nose clean, do your job at the highest standards, and study for the tests you can go pretty far. Those who get buy with the *** kissing only make it so far. At some point, you have to put your money where your mouth is. Good luck to you.
i think it is a mixture of both. if i was in a branch of the military i wouldn't want some incompetent person behind me and have to trust my life to them. at the same time i think it would be too difficult to do all the test, evals, reviews necessary to pull out from all the people only those of "high" competence.
you know what, i guess i have to agree. i am by no means incompetent just frustrated by this. im doing well, getting great evals and carrying my work centers toughest collateral duties. but im also seeing 5.0 rockstar quality sailors getting pts'd out and 2.0 sailors getting rewards and approvals as an attempt to motivate by rewarding garbage behavior. guess im just being a cry baby lol.
as far as incompetence goes the navy has a place for everyone. some people are obvious exemptions. but when youre processed they examine you and determine your level of skill and place you accordingly. i maintain the avionics of mh-60 helicopters and some people paint and swab the ships. thats what the asvab and meps is for. theyll decide where the less competent people are placed. the popular navy slogan is one team one fight but not everyone is pointing an m-16 over your shoulder. but lots of training and discipline can turn incompetence into awesomeness. everyone starts out pooping their diapers they just need a good teacher.
Would not tell my best of friends or my worst of enemies to go into any branch of our Military Forces. But that's just me. Take that any way, any direction you wish to. As some famous person said, and I quote whome ever it was,....."they were the best of times,....they were the worst of times", : and now I'll shut up before I get into trouble for stating the Truth's that we all know, when we wake up each morning in the USA.