Is it Possible??? PVC Tank...

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
Oh, and I forgot to mention about that 3' cube I was thinking about.

The (current) plan is to have the 8 footer in the center of the wall that opposes the door with 2 3' cubes on either side. Nice and dramatic.
 
hey no dig darkness. i love amphibians. i've always wanted to make a vivarium mini jungle w/ some darts, but i would really want to do it monster and don't currently have funds or space:(. i'll keep an eye on this thread though to watch for info:popcorn:

p.s. every looked at bichirs? you might like(of course couldn't keep them with your frogs;))
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Yeah, I have seen bichirs but they're too big.... Lol I've never seen a fish that i would like to keep thats bigger than 8".

I like large schools of small fish mainly. Things like Glofish are great, but I like the smaller tetras, guppies (but not the show ones with big tails), danios, small catfish and things of that nature. About the only big fish I would like to own would be some form of pleco.

I'm working on orderng some more plants from blackjungle to fill out my 90g, its pretty barren right now and my whites tree frog is always brown. That leads me to belive that he feels too out in the open.

Anyway, can someone please explain sumps for me. I think it would be a good way to increase filtration and the volume of water flowing through my tank.
 
too big? (looks around) ummmm.... you do realize where you are don't you? (leans in closer and whispers) i wouldn't talk like that around these parts, "accidents" can happen. you can slip and fall into a tank around here and there won't be evidence.

j/k:D seriously though, you should post some pics of your setup. it will help people understand your needs(and we all love pics)

there's ton's of sump info around if you search, but a good start is the setup and filtration faq, i think its a sticky in the setup/filtration section

BTW just let me know when you tire of feeders;)
 
I will let you know when I tire of feeders.

AND just because you're monster fish keepers doesn't mean you should discriminate against those that just like monster schools of fish.

I'll try and post some pics of my setup. But its not much. I just really wanted a tank and set up one thats not the best but I don't think its to shaby eigher.
 
hey i didn't mean to offend you. i was only joking. we really do support any type of responsable fish keeping, which you are obviously doing seeing as your asking questions. don't take those comments as how MFK or even i see this forum, i was just trying to lighten the atmosphere.

so back on topic, kinda. i'll give you my understanding of sumps, hope it will help rather than confuse.;)

a sump is basically just a separate container to hold extra water and usually utilized to setup/hide filtration. usage consists of a way to transport water from the main tank, commonly an overflow, to the sump and then a pump to the return the water to the tank.

filtration in the sump can range from relatively simple to complex, dependent on the needs and experience of the hobbyist. if being used for filtration the sump is separated into different compartments using baffles to set water levels.

although i do not speak for everyone(and please don't judge this site solely by me as it is a wonderful site where you can learn much) the simplest and one of the most effective is the w/d(wet/dry or trickle) filter. the water is spread across a bio media(:headbang2scrubbies:headbang2) via a drip plate, spray bar or both, which is only partially submerged in water(heard everywhere between 1/3-2/3). water should be mechanically filtered before the w/d, easily accomplished by placing polyfiber on the drip plate. after the water passes through the w/d it's off to the pump and back into the cycle.

hope this helps a little. a sump would probably be great for a terrarium since there is only a little water available in the main tank(usually) having the sump will increase capacity and help stabalize water quality.

here's a quick paint pic to maybe make my rambling understandable(please excuse the horrible art:D)
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bio media in pic is scrubbies:headbang2(you should search the forum for this term to understand the love:D)
sump 2.JPG

finally here's a link to start with, always gives me inspiration to try new filtration ideas.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=97647&highlight=filtration+pic+thread
 
You didn't offend me at all. I was just joking back.

I like large tanks with lots of plants and small colorful fish is all. Not just a large tank full of one fish.. To each his own, I can sure appreciate your guy's determination to keep a giant fish and keep them healthy.

Speaking of i was talking to a guy last night who had a 14" arowana, he was in buying feeders at petsmart.

Anyway, thats how I thought a sump would work.

I've heard of some plants that are good for nitrate fixing, things like peace lilys. Could that be included in a rear chamber too if I wanted the sump to be visible. Just one more step in the filtration and a little bit cleaner water.
 
great as long as were cool.

as far as peace lilies go they work great, however, in order to really have an effect you need alot, growing rapidly. usually a plant that grows quickly and you should trim often. but as far as looks go they're great. (btw if you have cats make sure they cannot eat them, lilies are very toxic!i hate bringing this up cause it sounds like i'm preaching but i'm a vet tech and these plants in general are bad.

you can also use many common tropical plants, which you probably already have. i was doing alot of research on using plants for filtration for a while, you can find tons of info by searching for plant filtration, much contradicts others and some is outdated(some old stuff is actually very useful though).

what i picked up was by finding plant species that were mentioned in different articles. pathos was very common. if this thread keeps up or if you start one more on track;) let me know.

i'm going to pull out my old papers now since i'm thinking about it again and i'll post up some specifics. also i'll find this interesting tidbit i vaguely recall about how terrestrial vs submerged/partially submerged preferes different products of the nitrogen cycle.

i love the idea of a sump that looks good enough to show with the tank. i'm actually trying to work up one that will look "natural" by hiding parts and also utilizing plants, lava rock, algae and other things. would love to collaborate. some day i hope to setup my 150 to look like a giant terrarium. using the bottom 2' for water and then pumping the water above into a top down sump, looking like a waterfall with plants and moss. may even somehow seperate an area for some red eyed tree frogs.

ahhhh.... dreams:D
 
Yeah, were cool. Never anything was bad really. Just some little fun.

I think that a homeade sump tank could readily be made to look good. As for pothos. I absolutley love it and the other aroids. I want to get some shingle type runners.

Something like this...http://www.blackjungle.com/Merchant...ode=BJTS&Product_Code=TP-CAZ&Category_Code=ET


I think it would just be like a planted tank abouve water. All you would really need would be to fill a chamber in the front of the tank with some substrate and plant it. Then it would obscure the view of all the workings in the back. If you really wanted to get complicated put a removable tray in the top that lets the water drip through onto the scrubbies....
 
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