Is it really worth it?... Eheim
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WyldFya;1824258; said:
Well it is Harley that said that it isnt suited for anything bigger then a 75gal.
I currently run 2 AC110's with my FX5 on my 150gal until my 220 is delivered.
I doubt a filter that isnt even rated for 220 tank size can contend with the bio load of a heavily stocked pred tank, and in my eyes would be a waste of money. I rather pick up a second FX5 and a Wet/Dry setup for the cost of one of the bigger Eheims... because what happens if for some reason the big filter breaks down, then I am left with a smaller filter that cant even handle the tank its self which is the whole reason of running 2 filters...
FX5's bio capacity 6L with stock foam, using all of the chambers for bio filtration. Eheim 2028s bio capacity 7L with stock pads. Do the math yourself. The idea of running a tank with only one filter is where you are running into your problems. Harley said that the eheim 2080 is only suited for a 75 gallon tank IF the 2080 is the only filter on the tank. If you are worried about a filter breaking down, then eheim is the route you should be going. I have had many renas and fluvals quit where my eheims have not. When running two filters, the total capacity of bio filtration needs to be more than the total of the tanks volume.
You asked for advice, I gave you advice, take it or leave it. Harley and I have had different experiences with our 2080 filters, much of that may be due to the types of fish kept, as well as the backup system and modifications I have made. With minor modifications, the eheim 2080 can sit right up there with an FX5 in mechanical, but FAR surpass it in biological.
You asked for advice, I gave you advice, take it or leave it. Harley and I have had different experiences with our 2080 filters, much of that may be due to the types of fish kept, as well as the backup system and modifications I have made. With minor modifications, the eheim 2080 can sit right up there with an FX5 in mechanical, but FAR surpass it in biological.
Wyld is right.
The 2080 lacks mech but bio is suitable even for /\/\onsters in a 220. I recommend to read the threads I suggested for details.
I recently had to hook mine up to my 220 again, with the modifications described in a previous thread and foam over the intakes (good advice, Wyld), as well as a 400 gph powerhead with foam. Water is good now. Still, it is not my primary choice and not suitable without major modifications IMO, which is why I suggested alternatives. IMO no combination of FXs can reach a 2260/2. If you have too few they lack bio, if you have too many they create a whirlpool. You could combine one with the 2080, but you may just as well get the real deal, a 2260/2. Then you'd only have one set of tubing in your tank, a much cleaner look than a tank cluttered with multiple FX intakes and outlets.
At the end it's your choice, but
The 2080 lacks mech but bio is suitable even for /\/\onsters in a 220. I recommend to read the threads I suggested for details.
I recently had to hook mine up to my 220 again, with the modifications described in a previous thread and foam over the intakes (good advice, Wyld), as well as a 400 gph powerhead with foam. Water is good now. Still, it is not my primary choice and not suitable without major modifications IMO, which is why I suggested alternatives. IMO no combination of FXs can reach a 2260/2. If you have too few they lack bio, if you have too many they create a whirlpool. You could combine one with the 2080, but you may just as well get the real deal, a 2260/2. Then you'd only have one set of tubing in your tank, a much cleaner look than a tank cluttered with multiple FX intakes and outlets.
At the end it's your choice, but
Just to mix things up, I am using 2 XP3 and 1 XP4 Rena Canister filters on my 320g tank with no problems (I do 3 30% water changes per week, though). I will have my 60 gallon sump up and running soon. If you want large capacity, I think a sump is still the best way to go (unless it breaks like mine did
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Although the 2260/2262 is designed with only one intake and one return, it can easily be plumbed with 2 intakes and 1 return. Just use the backflush unit as an intake. FYI the two big eheims have a tubing intake size that is the same as most eheims, however, the 2262s backflush actually feeds more water, and enables the filter to flow even higher rates.
IMO Eheims are worth it. I've got a 3 year old 2028, and two 11+ year old 2228s. I've never had ANY problems whatsoever with any of them. They take a lot more abuse, and need less frequent maintenance than any other canister I've owned (Magnum, Fluval or Rena).
Sure, they're pricey up front, but it sure as heck is cheaper than replacing Fluvals every 2 years...which I had to do several times on one tank before I just gave up and bought a Rena XP3.
Sure, they're pricey up front, but it sure as heck is cheaper than replacing Fluvals every 2 years...which I had to do several times on one tank before I just gave up and bought a Rena XP3.
