so now I'm starting to think that my female that I just got is also a mini she's only 9 inches and she is already had a pup....
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Is my new marble a mini?..claspers are huge
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It seems once the male matures growth rate slows way down. In the case of my mm only another inch or so in the last year and a half. My female (motoro not marble) has grown 6" after having her first pups in the same year and a half.
The perimeter spotting looks midget.....
My first cb pup was from a 9-10" dad and 17" mom. She's about 8" at 3+ years old. Her perimeter is spotted like your male's.
I'm guessing the male will still put on a few inches very slowly. The female midgets seem to keep growing a bit more steady then the males. Male growth seeems to slow to a crawl between 7-8" while the females seem to keep going steady. I'm guessing they'll probobly go 11-14" but may take years to get there. If your female had a pup at 9" I'd guess her to be a midget too......
In all reality if you have the option of picking up a tank over a pond for them I think you'll be much happier. The dark settting of ponds seems to effect patterns, but more importantly it is VERY difficult to monitor health when you can't see them from the side. Hard to tell a healthy ray from a skinny ray, and if you can from above it may be too late. You can't see feeding buldges and it's dang near impossible to see movement in the event one becomes preggo.
It's easy to jump the gun and build them something huge to appease the stingray police around here, but if what you have there is a tank full of midgets HOW BIG of tank do they really need? I'd much rather cramp them a bit and monitor health then turn them loose in a big pond and hope for the best.
Just .02 from someone that had no choice but to pond some bigger rays till the big tank got up and running. I had to learn the hard way about seeing dents from above, not being able to monitor whos eating cause it's hard to see chewing and feeding buldges, and even had to fish some extra eyes out of the pond one morning (3 pups) when I had no clue anyone was preggo till I open the lid and saw extra eyes.
My first cb pup was from a 9-10" dad and 17" mom. She's about 8" at 3+ years old. Her perimeter is spotted like your male's.
I'm guessing the male will still put on a few inches very slowly. The female midgets seem to keep growing a bit more steady then the males. Male growth seeems to slow to a crawl between 7-8" while the females seem to keep going steady. I'm guessing they'll probobly go 11-14" but may take years to get there. If your female had a pup at 9" I'd guess her to be a midget too......
In all reality if you have the option of picking up a tank over a pond for them I think you'll be much happier. The dark settting of ponds seems to effect patterns, but more importantly it is VERY difficult to monitor health when you can't see them from the side. Hard to tell a healthy ray from a skinny ray, and if you can from above it may be too late. You can't see feeding buldges and it's dang near impossible to see movement in the event one becomes preggo.
It's easy to jump the gun and build them something huge to appease the stingray police around here, but if what you have there is a tank full of midgets HOW BIG of tank do they really need? I'd much rather cramp them a bit and monitor health then turn them loose in a big pond and hope for the best.
Just .02 from someone that had no choice but to pond some bigger rays till the big tank got up and running. I had to learn the hard way about seeing dents from above, not being able to monitor whos eating cause it's hard to see chewing and feeding buldges, and even had to fish some extra eyes out of the pond one morning (3 pups) when I had no clue anyone was preggo till I open the lid and saw extra eyes.
Great info alan...thank you.
I am also glad you said that because I started looking at a 180g again...one guy has one for sale with some tem pbass..its in the region section of the buy and sell.
Its a nice tank.
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I think she was smaller then 9" when she had her pup...the pup i lost when we had that storm and lost power was her pup...
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hey man if you don' t mind me asking...where did you get the rays? I would loveto get some mini marbles.
thanks btw awesome looking!
thanks btw awesome looking!
I don't mind at all. I got them from Pete.. warrensmentor... who is getting out of a hobby.... is only a 5 minute ride down the road...
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It's possible. I had a 8.5"er give birth to a healthy pup, BUT the only time I've ever heard of pups from rays this size are ones that came in preggo...... Nobody seems to get them to CB at these small sizes. Even after mine gave birth she was never impregnated again, despite being in with several mature males.
I know IF it was me I'd be all over that 180. Snag that for now while you track down something 2.5-3' wide. NOT a fan at all of ponds unless they are for well established adults.
