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All right, I have playsand, about 6'' at the deepest corner of my tank. No problems with plants, no problems with dead spots. No problems at all.:D

Here's my take on it:
  • sand is among the best substrates for plants. The grain size of playsand allows optimal circulation of water. Plants root easily and deeply in sand (I don't know why some people have problems with that, but they may have big, digging monsters (see remark on bottom)).
  • get Malaysian trumpet snails - they dig thru your sand and you will never have any dead spots. They live mostly in the substrate, so you won't even be bothered by their presence. They will not overpopulate your tank as long as you don't overfeed your fish. They also help to keep the substrate clean - I never gravel-vacuum...
  • get a good substrate fertilizer (I used laterite). Mix it with the bottom third of your sand before you add the rest. However, you can use less than recommended by the manufacturer - playsand contains clay, serving as a natural fertilizer depot.
  • never add playsand after set-up. It will greatly cloud your tank. Instead, fill it in your tank with a few inches of water. Then change the water until it is clear above the sand. That might take 5-6 mini water changes. Once the few inches above the sand are clear, you can fill up your entire tank with water.
  • it has been mentioned that sand could ruin your filter. That greatly depends on the filter. I run Eheim canisters, which have the impeller on top. They never see any sand, since it settles at the bottom of the canister.


I love my playsand. Only if you have big, digging bottom dweller (RTC, TSN, rays) plants will be uprooted. But with fishes like that, you will have a hard time planting anything in any substrate other than a pot.

Go for sand :thumbsup:

HarleyK
 
I want to use play sand in my 150 gallon planted native tank when I get it going. I want to have about 2" of the tank filled with Florite and about 1"of a sand/gravel mix on top of that. I would put all of the plant roots in the Florite and trim leaves off the bottom of the plants so they don't get stuck under the sand. Do you think this would work?
 
for a couple minutes til the fish start moving the sand around. since it is small its going to want to sink to the bottom anyway. kinda a lost cause in doing it that way.
 
use wiseguys are the best playsand it is, how about mixed with cichlid sand and harleyk thanks!
 
I have used Laterite in one tank and will use Eco-complete in my new 75 gallon. I'm going to mix the Eco-complete with a brown small gravel. It will look sweet.:headbang2
 
Ive had sand in a couple tanks, no problems, you end up moving it around anyway cause it tends to flatten out, i like to push it up in dunes. If you do have problems with plants rooting you could make small pots for them under the sand with their normal substrate in them, then just cover the top inch with the sand.

specially for piranha, the amazon is all sand, watch the documentariies, the ps are in the sand under driftwood
 
Ive had sand in a couple tanks, no problems, you end up moving it around anyway cause it tends to flatten out, i like to push it up in dunes. If you do have problems with plants rooting you could make small pots for them under the sand with their normal substrate in them, then just cover the top inch with the sand.

specially for piranha, the amazon is all sand, watch the documentariies, the ps are in the sand under driftwood
saw that documentory and definitly agree, will use cichlid sand mixed with eco-complete reg gravel and plant gravel that is black to give my 90g a different look, thanks again guys and gals!!!!:headbang2 :thumbsup:
 
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