Is Violent Courting normal for Jags?

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Make a long story short I wound up with a brute of a male Jag by happen-stance, Alpha male no doudt. Also by happen-stance wound up with a real livewire alpha female. Introduced the 2 under trail by fire, they are inseperable. First they built a fry pit then beat the ever living crap outta each other, this has accurred daily and all day long for 5 days - Fry pit -Food - Fight. The female gets beat down every time yet she is still relentlessly determinded to exert her dominence. Shes 7" he's 8" @ about 10mo. from the fry stage. Both I assume are not yet capable of reproducing. Granted I'm no stranger to aggressive breeding species but even with breeding Red Terrors numerous times I have never seen this before. They're not trying to kill each other quite the opposite, they both hang in the fry pit togather to rest then bam back at it. - Is this normal for an Alpha pair Parachromis? If so I had no idea female Jags were so down right head strong.
 
i have heard more female jag horror stories than male.
When i got my male he had bit beaten on pretty good by his woman.
Course my female is pretty gentle so, not all are hell with fins i guess
 
I have had Managuense breed as small as three inches. It is possible. A while back I wrote an article for TFH magazine about the breeding process of Managuense. It's very normal for them to be aggressive during particular periods of their breeding. Prior to the actual egg laying and just after the fry are removed in particular. I would strongly recommend getting a strong divider in place and leave it in place for several months. It is very possible that their present aggression could result in serious damage...much like the other fish you have bred. The big difference that I have seen between Central and South American cichlids is that the Central's are unpredictable. When you least expect it, they can beat each other to death.

Otherone;4767716; said:
Make a long story short I wound up with a brute of a male Jag by happen-stance, Alpha male no doudt. Also by happen-stance wound up with a real livewire alpha female. Introduced the 2 under trail by fire, they are inseperable. First they built a fry pit then beat the ever living crap outta each other, this has accurred daily and all day long for 5 days - Fry pit -Food - Fight. The female gets beat down every time yet she is still relentlessly determinded to exert her dominence. Shes 7" he's 8" @ about 10mo. from the fry stage. Both I assume are not yet capable of reproducing. Granted I'm no stranger to aggressive breeding species but even with breeding Red Terrors numerous times I have never seen this before. They're not trying to kill each other quite the opposite, they both hang in the fry pit togather to rest then bam back at it. - Is this normal for an Alpha pair Parachromis? If so I had no idea female Jags were so down right head strong.
 
Aquamojo;4767766; said:
I have had Managuense breed as small as three inches. It is possible. A while back I wrote an article for TFH magazine about the breeding process of Managuense. It's very normal for them to be aggressive during particular periods of their breeding. Prior to the actual egg laying and just after the fry are removed in particular. I would strongly recommend getting a strong divider in place and leave it in place for several months. It is very possible that their present aggression could result in serious damage...much like the other fish you have bred. The big difference that I have seen between Central and South American cichlids is that the Central's are unpredictable. When you least expect it, they can beat each other to death.

Great article btw...
 
yeah that is a great article mine are in the digging pit phase at this time. looking forward to hopefully a successful bred. i lost the last group of eggs to hungry plecos that picked their eating times very selective....
 
yes they are brutal when they court. Its ancient geneology. The stronger the pair the stonger the strain. Unfortunately sometimes one or both gets carried away and will rip the others lip off. I recently had to find a home for one of my female flowerhorns because she was like a piranna at mating time. Just keep an eye on them and get some melafix at walmart to treat the wounds. That stuff is awsome and not harsh like the blue treatments. I know alot about cichlids so hit me up if you have any more questions.
 
Thank you for your responses and advice. I took a trip to Home depot last nite and got a lite grid to make a divivder. I'm wondering now if this adventure is failed from the start, I wasn't lookin' for a divided tank more or less a pairing like my old Festae were the female was submissive enuff to keep the peace. They've got 6' of bottom space all to themselves yet the only use 2' only venture out for food. Guess I just gotta deal with it.
 
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