Is your sump/overflow LOUD? THEN DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!

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Great post, Jose.

Just to add to Egon's question and your answer, Herbie's will have slight fluctuations during the initial setup, but after that, they're pretty much like Ron Popeille - set it and forget it. Reef ready tanks are just begging to be on these systems :)
 
Thank you for the info. I've just set up a 220g with a sump and the gurgling is driving me nuts! Looks like I will need to re-plumb the whole thing. The tank is in the living room, but I can still hear the dang gurgling in the bedroom at night.
 
Clay;4778402;4778402 said:
Great post, Jose.

Just to add to Egon's question and your answer, Herbie's will have slight fluctuations during the initial setup, but after that, they're pretty much like Ron Popeille - set it and forget it. Reef ready tanks are just begging to be on these systems :)
Thanks Clay, your posts regarding these setups have also helped me a lot. Got any pics you wanna share? :)
 
I totally silenced the durso's in our 210 by increasing the return volume to the DT.

I originally had a Mag18 and had to restrict both drains 45° to quiet them. I added a Mag7 and opened one of the drains fully and it went silent. Totally silent. The only noise I was getting was from the other drain which was mostly valved off.

I yanked both pumps and installed a Hy-Drive 3200 and opened the other drain and they both went silent but I needed to bypass some of the return teeing back to the sump. I use this to supply the refugium.

What I found was the closer to MAX flow thru the drains the quieter they became. I push close to 2000gph to the DT mebbe ~ 1800gph and drain thru those two 1" durso's.

I like the idea of a back up so I use one of the former returns as a emergency overflow if needed. I set the Ball valves, would have been better if I had use Gate valves, about six months ago and not touched them since.
 
jcardona1;4780248; said:
Thanks Clay, your posts regarding these setups have also helped me a lot. Got any pics you wanna share? :)
I'll have some pics posted soon(ish). I'm in the process of building 2 stands (90g and 120g), 2 canopies, setting up the 375g, AND building out the tank room for the 375. If I took pics now it would just be an incoherent mess :( I was really hoping to have the 375 completed by New Years, but progress that week was hampered by a few other projects. I keep chugging along. Tonight I'm reorganizing a 29g quarantine tank!

Oh, and my leds showed up for my DIY build. I'm going to retrofit them into something.... probably the fixture from the 29g - maybe.
 
Jose, thanks for this share although I have one question and let me apologize now for a noobish question but where does your return lines go? Does it not go back up the overflows then to the tank?
 
bomber;4782623;4782623 said:
Jose, thanks for this share although I have one question and let me apologize now for a noobish question but where does your return lines go? Does it not go back up the overflows then to the tank?
No worries, ask away!! If the overflow box only has two holes drilled, then yes, the returns will need to be plumbed over the tank or you'll need to drill extra holes somewhere. The Herbie method requires two drain lines, Beananimal uses three.
 
This looks like the method I will be using on my system as well, thanks to Clay, Jose and this thread in particular:)

I did spend a good bit of time poking around a bunch of reef sites and alot of the folks over there dont use any standpipe at all for the main drain, just for the emergency. The theory behind the no standpipe evidently lies in the use of the gate valve. They simply back down the gate valve till the water level rises to about 6-7 inches below the overflow teeth, then roll it back up till it stabilizes in the box. Anyone around here tried it this way?

Lots of reefers are doing this with just the bare bulkhead and swear it actually makes it quieter because there cant be any air in the line at all with some 18-20 inches of water above the bulkhead. I thought this was pretty interesting............
 
Jc1119;4785956;4785956 said:
This looks like the method I will be using on my system as well, thanks to Clay, Jose and this thread in particular:)

I did spend a good bit of time poking around a bunch of reef sites and alot of the folks over there dont use any standpipe at all for the main drain, just for the emergency. The theory behind the no standpipe evidently lies in the use of the gate valve. They simply back down the gate valve till the water level rises to about 6-7 inches below the overflow teeth, then roll it back up till it stabilizes in the box. Anyone around here tried it this way?

Lots of reefers are doing this with just the bare bulkhead and swear it actually makes it quieter because there cant be any air in the line at all with some 18-20 inches of water above the bulkhead. I thought this was pretty interesting............
Yeah that is an interesting approach. I wonder though, can you close the valve enough so that the water level almost touches the overflow teeth? I like to keep the water level in the overflow box really high to avoid the sound of falling water...
 
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