its p14 breeding time

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thats awesome T1:drool: how big are the babies as they look bigger than they probably are?:)
once again well done:D
 
their is a big size diffrence between the 2 pups 1 is 3inch the other about 2inch the smaller one is the better feeder

the pups are faily big as the female is only 12-13inch
 
Brent;806436; said:
where the parents brother and sister?

no the male came from someone in germany (im trying to find out who )

and the female came from frank
 
I think the male was from Armin Schauer a well known german breeder. Also for him one of the first batches of P14. Armin is not on forums and so on ( at least I have never seen it)
Regards
Frank
 
Itaituba2003;806622; said:
I think the male was from Armin Schauer a well known german breeder. Also for him one of the first batches of P14. Armin is not on forums and so on ( at least I have never seen it)
Regards
Frank



im not 100% sure i will have to ask steven if i can find his email address as he sorted the male out as the seller chouldnt talk/type english only german which maybe why he doesnt post on any forums
 
Congrats to you T1, nice pics.

Was in Wholesale Tropicals today, purchasing a nice Indo. Terry showed me the pics you emailed him.

Thought I would say hi and well done, hope all is going well with them.
 
T1KARMANN;806663; said:
im not 100% sure i will have to ask steven if i can find his email address as he sorted the male out as the seller chouldnt talk/type english only german which maybe why he doesnt post on any forums

I remember the transport Richard we traded them with the aros in Calais or in that neighbourhood. That were the animals of Armin.
Regards
Frank
PS He and I were the only ones breeding P14 at that time.
 
Hi Richard,

T1KARMANN;806663; said:
im not 100% sure i will have to ask steven if i can find his email address as he sorted the male out as the seller chouldnt talk/type english only german which maybe why he doesnt post on any forums
Armin Schauer was the first P14 breeder.
I have a report of his first P14 pups on my website, here is a Google translation:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.potamotrygon.de%2Frochennews%2F041021-P14-Nachzucht.html&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools

One of your P14 was from Armin Schauer.
Here is a translation of Armins former website:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fweb.archive.org%2Fweb%2F20060524231510%2Fwww.stechrochen.de%2F23101%2Fhome.html%3F*session*id*key*%3D*session*id*val*&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
 
rayman;806741; said:

thanks for helping me out hear the dates are exacly right his 1st batch of pups were botn on the 7th -02-05 we picked up 4 pups from him 2 from the 1st batch and 2 from his 2nd batch they were real small and i thought i had bittern off more than i chould handle

a few months later i picked a larger female up from frank

my freind who took the other 2 rays from admin didnt make it but hears a pic of the 2 pups the smallest is the father and the larger rays is the female from frank

the 2 pups from admin took ages to turn black but the female from frank was nearly totaly black

the rays in the poly box are from admin the smallest is about the same size as 1 of my new pups

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