Jaguar cichlid info please

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They are extremely aggressive and are best in an aquarium by themselves unless you have a very large tank. the largest i have seen was a 14-15 inch male but i have heard stories of up to 20 inches in the wild. Jaguar cichlids are very common and you probably wont have any troubles finding them. If you get a male, you will eventually need a large tank, when it reaches 12 inch+ a tank with 72 inch length will be ideal. I used to feed my male a mix of krill, pellets and shrimp. My Mana was certainly one of the most personable cichlids i have kept, it constantly tried to attack me through the glass and chased me as i walked by the tank. good luck with finding the right cichlid for you and if you choose the Managuense i hope that you enjoy keeping it as much as i did.

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I believe it depending more on the tank size they are in. My pair is pretty docile in the 220, even when breeding as long as the other fish stay out of their little hole they made. Both are around 10-12" btw.
I would definitely recommend at least a 100 gallon if you plan to keep a male with other fish. Also i wouldnt pay anymore than 10 bucks for a 3", and you should be able to tell a male or the fish store can at that size, i find in a tank full of jags they pair off pretty young and usually the males will be a deep purple while the females are more silvery. Older specimens can be more easily identified by the high arching back of the female vs the (usually) more spotted and streamlined shape of the male.
 
Jags are a great fish and for the price you can get them for you cant beat it. I'm picking up a vreeding female for my male sunday. i'm trading a very stressed red terror that is way to aggressive and has my pike near death. Its all about what you will pay for them. I wouldnt pay more than $10 for a 5 incher. But what do I know I'm trading a red terror for one +15 which is less than i payed for the terror... HA
 
Alright good stuff 8 got almost all the info on them I need.. but I was wondering sense they can't have tank mates how would a pleco fair in the tank with her? The jag I bought yesterday is a good 6-u inches so would a pleco probably not be a good idea?
 
Alright good stuff 8 got almost all the info on them I need.. but I was wondering sense they can't have tank mates how would a pleco fair in the tank with her? The jag I bought yesterday is a good 6-u inches so would a pleco probably not be a good idea?
It would probably ignore the pleco. But I would go with one that is the same size or a little bigger. I had a small rubber lip pleco and they flipped him over and ate his insides
 
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Right now, Im having a HELL of a time finding a female for my male. Ive asked every vendor on MFK and several people known for having more than a few specimens and I still cant get 100% confirmation that I can get one.

Funny I have 4 females and can't find a male!
 
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growth rate is around an inch a month the first 6-10 months, then usually slows down considerably unless housed with just a partner or solo in a LARGE tank

I agree with everything but the above. An inch a month on average is bout a quarter inch a week...or a fraction of that every day. All due respect, but I've never seen growth like that. Fish grow at a different pace. I have a tank full of managuense now growing out...with fish ranging in size...some double the size of their siblings...others a fraction of that.
 
few, I was starting to get worried about my growth rate! Aquamojo, what was the growth rate on your beast like?

I've had this species of fish for over thirty years....and I would be hard pressed to give you an actual growth rate. I can tell you that all fish DO grow faster as fry simply because nature dictates that you get bigger or get eaten by other fish or your siblings. Once a fish hit's a one inch mark it depends on many factors...including the size of the tank, how it is stocked, what and how often you feed and if the fish pair bonds or breeds. My experience, and I couldn't back this up with scientific data, has been that a breeding pair of fish...primarily the male....will grow dramatically slower than a NON breeding pair. The reason seems pretty obvious as energy normally directed toward growth is diverted to the process of making babies.

Big water also plays a part in growth. Fish that I would put in the pond would grow literally at almost twice the rate as those kept in a tank....even a big tank. Specifically the managuense that I kept in a 180 gallon tank, when compared to fish pulled from the pond. I had read that pheromones released by fish, not only the single fish species but all of the fish in a particular body of water would help dictate how fast and how big fish would attain over a period of time. I keep a lot of my fish in tanks either as species specific or as breeding pair. As such there aren't a lot of other fish that would release pheromones signalling that the fish should/could grow faster. On many occasions I would have a smaller male that would have a "growth spurt" after a large male was removed from that body of water. Again, can't back it up, but my impression is that frequent big water changes reduce the concentration of pheromones.

Diet is important...although Wayne Leibel gave a presentation one time where he stated that water changes played a bigger part is growth than diet. I firmly believe this to be true for multiple reasons. The point was made that "power feeding" was no different for fish than it was for people. If you give your fish a LOT of food in short periods of time (power feeding) all you are doing is increasing the caloric intake of the fish. Will it get bigger? Probably. Will it be healthier? I seriously doubt it. Dramatic weight gain isn't good for man nor beast...or fish. In the wild a fish might get a regular meal, but very few have an underwater McDonalds to belly up to. IN addition the quality of water becasue of the increased bio load could be affected further impairing health and growth.

I think one of the most overlooked areas of our hobby is NOT fully understanding the actual dietry needs of the fish we keep. Many keep a variety of fish in the same tank...omnivores with piscivores...tossing in the same pellet or feed and not particularly paying attention to who's eating what and how much. Yet another reason why I enjoy keeping tank stock simple and light.

Nature and circumstance dictates how fast. Soooo, a long explanation for a short "opinion"...as illustrated above, I don't think there is a definitive answer. I would think that, depending on how big the fish is when you get it, you can expect to see a male grow between 7-10" in the first year...with the higher end being affected by not only the points mentioned, but also by the fish itself. Successive years of growth for most of the larger CA cichlids result in added girth rather than length.

You may just get a "lunker" that will break all growth records. You may get the runt of the litter. I had a half dozen wild A. hogaboomorum that I brought back from Honduras. My buddy has one of the males. His is literally....and I mean spot on...HALF the size of my smallest male. If you think about the way we buy fish now, it is totally unnatural. In the wild, out of a batch of fry you might see 1% make it to adulthood. Predation and other factors play a part in that. Fish that are being raised in our tanks...maybe 75% make it. From that point it's a spin of the wheel to see if you get lucky, average or skunked.

Fish will continue to grow throughout their lives. Nature as well as circumstance dictates growth.

Hope that helps.

Mo
 
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Wow I don't know if there is but a sticky about fish growth would be great. A collaboration of knowledge from people like mojo would benefit everyone!
 
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