linear logic is flabberfasting I know... especially when emotions control the entire logic center of the brain...
Joe Paterno and Penn State president fired!
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linear logic is flabberfasting I know... especially when emotions control the entire logic center of the brain...
SO AM I HOW DOES ANYONE ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONTINUALLY DEFEND ILLEGAL AND ANTI- SOCIAL BEHAVIOR
I mean, who would have thought that they had hired a child molester? Who ever hired him should be fired!
I can't believe I'm getting sucked into this...
Speaking about Joe Pa only:
1-He heard (key word here: HEARD, what the media and justice systems would say is "alleged" that means not personally witnessed or proven by documented fact) about misconduct by one of his coaches.
2-He took some time to consider this (9 days, from earlier in this thread as I haven't followed every detail). OK, maybe this was a bad decision, but consider maybe if it had been a false rumor. Innocent lives have been ruined by much lesser rumors in this country. So if I were in the same shoes considering the fate of a close colleague who I had known for years, I probably would have paused too. And I think anyone who can be honest with themselves and the world about their own humanity would agree.
3-He reports what he's heard (there's that word again) to the police and the school's administration. That's the appropriate action. PERIOD.
No one here is saying that child abuse is ok; so what illegal/anti-social behavior?
Consider the society which you are proposing with this remark: It would be illegal to HEAR a rumor about someone AND report it to the authorities, but not PERSONALLY bring justice down on that person... You are requiring by law that everyone be a vigilante, it would be anarchy... We have our justice system today to prevent just that.
Could Joe Pa done more? Maybe... Even probably, given the figurative power of his position. But should he have, could he even have legally? Assuming its true that all he "knew" was hearsay, I don't think so.
Why is he the media's target and not the school's administration or the McQ-guy, cause Joe Pa is a household name and they are not. So the juiciest story comes from taking down the public figure.
Now if it comes out (by admission or otherwise documented fact) that Joe Pa knew (not heard of, but actually KNEW) of Sandusky's horrible, heinous acts of abuse towards children and covered it up or in anyway promoted/allowed it to continue; then I will condemn him. But not before. And that's the argument I think a lot of people here are making.
Official disclaimer: I have not followed closely every detail of this case, I've just heard the highlights. And I have NO connection with Penn State. I grew up in South Jersey and went to college at the US Coast Guard Academy. I don't even like college football and could give a lesser poop about the success of any team or coach. I only think that it was morally wrong for the media to pursue a campaign against a man who was dealing with HEARSAY and took what appears to be the correct actions in light of it.
One of the greatest posts in this thread esp reGARding waiting to tell police. False allegations can still cause major problems for the person being accused. The 3 duke students accussed of rape come to mind. He had to consider the witness's credability. Of course for saying this im gonna be called an idiot by the luckiest troll ever. How he aint bannned I dont know
the reason i say joe pa was the fall guy is because NUMEROUS people did the wrong thing and all the public backlash including some of the people posting on this thread are/were directed toward one guy. hence the meaning of the word "fall guy". Do you even know the meaning of the word "fall guy". here it is for those who seem not to understand.
A fall guy is a person used as a scapegoat to take the blame for someone else's actions, or someone at the butt of jokes. One placed in the position of fall guy is often referred to as "taking the fall".
See? joe pa took the fall for the mistakes of many
i really could give a rip less about joe paterno or the penn state football program, they never were and never will be relevant in my life. for lp to continue to be a moron and act like we're personally the students that were rioting on the front lawn of the school and joe paterno's house is a huuuuge stretch. yet, he keeps spewing that nonsense? lep had it right, i should've put him on ignore
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