Keep adding ammonia ? Or let the Nitrites go to zero?

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The way I look at it is that the BB is a real time biological model (dynamic and constantly in flux), but we're limited to feeding and testing in spurts. Many people feed 2 or 3 times per week and test less frequently. Others might feed and test twice per day.

BB colonies aren't designed to live that way. Individual bacteria feed, undergo cellular change, live and die constantly. Populations can double in well under 24 hours, and ideally much faster. If they are ready to eat and food has already been consumed, they have to slow down.

Ammonia and nitrites could be consumed faster if there was more BB, but under aquarium conditions where food is sporadic, the existing populations are only large enough to covert a peak load in a reasonably fast time. To convert it faster, there would need to be more BB, but since food drops off after the peak (for 12 hours, 2 days, etc.), there's no need for a bigger population.

If that follows, then the average amount of ammonia added can't be kept constant (at say 3 ppm administered twice per day), if one wants more BB than will normally exist to handle a peak load of 3 ppm. Either more has to be added per day, or the amount added twice per day has to be increased. In the case of tanks with existing fish populations, it would imply always adding ammonia even while feeding fish their normal daily needs.

Unfortunately, adding ammonia also increases risks to the fish, and is counter productive if fish care (and not BB care) is the main objective. So really there's no correct answer to the problem. The maximum amount of BB is based upon conditions that are not ideal for the maximum amount of fish.

This assumes no other constraints of course, and no random fluctuations in protein added, temperature, pH, oxygen, etc., all of which might affect BB growth.

Anyway, that's the way I see it.
 
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So I checked and I'm putting in ammonia at a rate to get it to about 2 to 4 ppm in the morning. Then add same amount at night ( mimic my feeding ). I think that is about right
So far the morning's nitrites are reading 5ppm but disappear by PM's " feeding"
and the morning's ammonia is zero.

Seems to be about what my tanks would do with problems. With OUT problems all levels rise to a half to 1ppm after a feeding and dissipate at the PM feeding.

If the readings in the tanks are more than 1ppm I always add a little Prime.
 
The way I look at it is that the BB is a real time biological model (dynamic and constantly in flux), but we're limited to feeding and testing in spurts. Many people feed 2 or 3 times per week and test less frequently. Others might feed and test twice per day.

BB colonies aren't designed to live that way. Individual bacteria feed, undergo cellular change, live and die constantly. Populations can double in well under 24 hours, and ideally much faster. If they are ready to eat and food has already been consumed, they have to slow down.

Ammonia and nitrites could be consumed faster if there was more BB, but under aquarium conditions where food is sporadic, the existing populations are only large enough to covert a peak load in a reasonably fast time. To convert it faster, there would need to be more BB, but since food drops off after the peak (for 12 hours, 2 days, etc.), there's no need for a bigger population.

If that follows, then the average amount of ammonia added can't be kept constant (at say 3 ppm administered twice per day), if one wants more BB than will normally exist to handle a peak load of 3 ppm. Either more has to be added per day, or the amount added twice per day has to be increased. In the case of tanks with existing fish populations, it would imply always adding ammonia even while feeding fish their normal daily needs.

Unfortunately, adding ammonia also increases risks to the fish, and is counter productive if fish care (and not BB care) is the main objective. So really there's no correct answer to the problem. The maximum amount of BB is based upon conditions that are not ideal for the maximum amount of fish.

This assumes no other constraints of course, and no random fluctuations in protein added, temperature, pH, oxygen, etc., all of which might affect BB growth.

Anyway, that's the way I see it.


Love this reply. Thank you. Nice approach I think.
 
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