Did you just receive them? You should have quarantined them for atleast 30 days before mixing them with an already established species.
Keeping baby razorbacks with baby terrapins?
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dirtyblacksocks;3240298; said:
If you ever have to ask about mixing any sort of Reptile species, then you should not mix the reptiles. Mixing reptiles is for advanced keepers and obviously you have not done enough research if you are asking us if its safe.
cobra blitz;3240663; said:
Yeah, very good coloration on them.
Thanks for the heads up on these guys.
evilxyardxgnome;3240818; said:
Once again, makes no sense. Obviously I'm doing research if I'm posting questions like this on the internet, and I don't see how getting fellow hobbyists opinions on the matter is an issue. You're jumping to conclusions, as far as QT on the animals - they come from a trusted source and are captive bred from hobbyists, not commercially imported garbage.
What am I supposed to go read this stuff in a book or somthing? To the best of my knowledge this type of knowledge in the husbandry of animals like this only comes from experience - and the only way to gain that experience is to experiment.
Like I said, they're all doing fine - the terapin didn't even bother looking at the razorback again once he was in the tub and he's happily foraging around for food.
lol I don't know how to speak any simpler for you. Obviously you are an expert and can tell when a reptile has any sort of parasite or disease that may get transfered from previous keeper and a good quarantine is unnecessary. MY BAD.
Honestly, I've been keeping herps, fish, ect long enough to know that QT is an overrated practice. Out of 20 years of being in the hobby I've had maybe three outbreaks of a disease as a result of not putting things in QT.
You come off as an elitist to me - a lot of the opinions from hobbyists on the internet (and this is my own opinion, coming from real experience) are just regurgitation from stuff they've read. While there's nothing wrong with QT - it's also just as easy to medicate down the line if somthing goes wrong, obviously it's a risk you take.
That still doesn't skirt around all the other BS you're putting forward. My point was that your comments weren't very constructive and seemed to be more condescending than anything, the advise you gave wasn't really advise so much as criticism - and you sort of ignored all other issue's I brought up, outside of not putting things in QT.
Where am I supposed to be finding this all mighty "turtle compatibility sheet"? Instead of asking around with other experienced hobbyists, I suppose I'll just refer to it from now on to - so please give me the link. I too would like to come off as an "expert hobbyist" from now on by only dolling out criticisms rather than useful information. Please enlighten me to where I can read up on things like turtle compability - so that I can refrain from trying to get realtime opinions from people with realtime experience.
You come off as an elitist to me - a lot of the opinions from hobbyists on the internet (and this is my own opinion, coming from real experience) are just regurgitation from stuff they've read. While there's nothing wrong with QT - it's also just as easy to medicate down the line if somthing goes wrong, obviously it's a risk you take.
That still doesn't skirt around all the other BS you're putting forward. My point was that your comments weren't very constructive and seemed to be more condescending than anything, the advise you gave wasn't really advise so much as criticism - and you sort of ignored all other issue's I brought up, outside of not putting things in QT.
Where am I supposed to be finding this all mighty "turtle compatibility sheet"? Instead of asking around with other experienced hobbyists, I suppose I'll just refer to it from now on to - so please give me the link. I too would like to come off as an "expert hobbyist" from now on by only dolling out criticisms rather than useful information. Please enlighten me to where I can read up on things like turtle compability - so that I can refrain from trying to get realtime opinions from people with realtime experience.
evilxyardxgnome;3240812; said:
These cb razorback musk turtles he picked up came from one of my friends. They were born last fall and my friend has been raising them since then. Although my friend did not breed them himself, they did originally come from another turtle breeder. They are good. Same goes for the diamondback terrapins he already has.
These are not recently wild caught animals, these are captive bred animals. If these were baby tortoises from different sources I'd say otherwise because mixing them, even while captive bred, coming from different sources, it can be tricky. Captive bred aquatic turtles from the same regions of the world arent as touchy when it comes to these. situations. Still, it all depends on the situation and species involved.
These particular diamondbacks and razorbacks will be fine together.
Most of the time I get a lot of people on here posting about if they can add so and so reptile with their other reptile. And most of the time we say no. Mixing reptiles is never usually a good idea unless you are a more advanced keeper. Especially when they come from different biotypes. So I jumped onto this thread because it to me is in this same case. I still think its not a great idea since we have said in the past that the Diamondbacks are best kept in a brackish environment and I am not quite sure if the musk turtles will be fine in a brackish environment. As with quarantine, even if the animal is captive bred unless you were there and knew how the animal was kept and what kind of parasites and what not might be present, etc I still recommend quarantining to be safe. Especially with the terrapins since they are not a hardy species of turtle. But thats just my 2 cents.
Terrapin's do fine in fresh water, you just have to stay on top of maintenance to prevent fungal and bacterial infections - they're especially fine if they're CB and haven't ever been introduced to brackish conditions.
I work in at reptile/fish store so I have an out of the norm ability when it comes to accessing medications and knowing how healthy our stock is or isn't.
I don't see the problem in mixing any reptiles so long as you ask advice first and keep a close eye on them - obviously with animals such as snakes or solitary lizards it's a no no, but turtles in general seem to be fine so long as you don't intermix conspecifics, and even then it works out somtimes.
I made this thread to get advice, not to be lectured - was my point. If you haven't had personal experience with mixing them yourself - or don't consider yourself to be an advanced hobbyist in the care of turtles then you really have no business posting in here, and you really don't need to be so rude about your posts.
Do you even own either of these species of turtle?
I work in at reptile/fish store so I have an out of the norm ability when it comes to accessing medications and knowing how healthy our stock is or isn't.
I don't see the problem in mixing any reptiles so long as you ask advice first and keep a close eye on them - obviously with animals such as snakes or solitary lizards it's a no no, but turtles in general seem to be fine so long as you don't intermix conspecifics, and even then it works out somtimes.
I made this thread to get advice, not to be lectured - was my point. If you haven't had personal experience with mixing them yourself - or don't consider yourself to be an advanced hobbyist in the care of turtles then you really have no business posting in here, and you really don't need to be so rude about your posts.
Do you even own either of these species of turtle?
