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Oddball;5044461; said:
The origin of the SH issues on the east coast wasn't directly caused by the food markets. It was caused by a market customer who purchased SHs for a family dinner. When family members died, he released the live SHs into local waters in a ceremonial honor tradition for the dead. Unfortunately, the SHs survived and flourished from this release.


yeah that is what I heard.
 
doesn't it drop down to freezing in FL every once in a while? I'd think that alot of the tropical fish couldn't deal with that. has FL had issues with giant snakehead aswell or just the northern?
 
nicholasdances;5045713; said:
the northern snakehead is the only snakehead that has a chance of doing any damage to the ecosystem in the north east. and NOBODY in this thread has made any sort of arguement to make these guys legal.

I think the northern snake head is a undesirable fish and as such loosing it not a big blow to the trade but the rest of the family is simply amazing and that is what makes me furious.
 
kamikaziechameleon;5045740; said:
I think the northern snake head is a undesirable fish and as such loosing it not a big blow to the trade but the rest of the family is simply amazing and that is what makes me furious.

yup, i bet most people on here would agree with you on that
 
I still think the notion of invasive species and conservation is pretty ridiculous. Our laws have no continuity. I just feel that while lots of people make great grand notions of solutions to this issue the only one I see working would be something that regulates all pet trades no picking on reptiles or fish.

We previously had a brief discussion on feral dogs and cats and I had a talk with my mom last night and she told me growing up in a rural town of less than 1,000 people total that they had feral dogs and cats and not just around the town but if you would drive out to a farmer who was over a mile from another person he'd say how much trouble they caused. They where worse than coyotes or foxes.

So all I'm saying is that PETS in general will be invasive species in the wrong hands. I think this is proof that we either ban them all or create a universal piece of legislation or repeal all legislation for all pets. Uniformity would simplify things and create a more fair industry/trade and experience for consumers.
 
I feel fish bans should be on a state by state basis. The RBP is banned in certain states and not in others. I can own all the RBP I want here in Wisconsin. Goldfish can survive our winters up here but they aren't banned.

I found this on the Wisconsin DNR site. Found it pretty interesting that they took the time to determine what snakehead species can and cannot survive the winter.

(c) Fish and crayfish. The following fish invasive species and
crayfish invasive species are prohibited:
1. Channidae (snakehead), including Channa argus (Northern
snakehead), Channa bleheri (Rainbow snakehead), Channa
gachua (Dwarf snakehead), Channa maculata (Blotched snakehead),
Channa marulius (Bullseye snakehead), Channa punctata
(Spotted snakehead), and Channa striata (Chevron snakehead

12. All other nonnative fish and nonnative crayfish except:
a. Established nonnative fish species and established nonnative
crayfish species
b. Nonnative viable fish species in the aquarium trade
c. Nonnative fish species in the aquaculture industry
d. Fish species that the department has determined are nonviable
fish species
Note: As of Jan. 1, 2010, the department determined that the following Snakehead
fish species are nonviable fish species: Channa amphibeus (Chel snakehead),
Channa asiatica (Chinese snakehead), Channa aurantimaculata (Orangespotted
snakehead), Channa bankanensis (Bangka snakehead), Channa baramensis (Baram
snakehead), Channa barca (Barca snakehead), Channa burmanica (Burmese snakehead),
Channa cyanospilos (Bluespotted snakehead), Channa harcourtbutleri (Inle
snakehead), Channa lucius (Splendid snakehead), Channa maruliodes (Emperor
snakehead), Channa melnopterus (Blackfinned snakehead), Channa melasoma
(Black snakehead), Channa micropeltes (Giant snakehead), Channa nox (Night
snakehead), Channa orientalis (Ceylon snakehead), Channa panaw (Panaw snakehead),
Channa pleurophthalma (Ocellated snakehead), Channa stewartii (Golden
snakehead), Parachanna Africana (Niger snakehead), Parachanna insignis (Congosnakehead), and Parachanna Obscura (African snakehead).

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/rsb/code/nr/nr040.pdf

Not sure what use it is but found it interesting non the less.
 
Blue2Fyre;5045771; said:
I feel fish bans should be on a state by state basis. The RBP is banned in certain states and not in others. I can own all the RBP I want here in Wisconsin. Goldfish can survive our winters up here but they aren't banned.

I found this on the Wisconsin DNR site. Found it pretty interesting that they took the time to determine what snakehead species can and cannot survive the winter.





http://legis.wisconsin.gov/rsb/code/nr/nr040.pdf

Not sure what use it is but found it interesting non the less.

if that meant we could keep those animals that would be nice instead it looks like the findings are superfluous.
 
interesting to see where the discussion went.

and to the people questioning my statements, when you make it out of your parents basement or get time off from high school and can make it out to socal i'll introduce you to my neighbor and you can tell him he doesn't keep the fish he has in his garage. or i can introduce you to a couple of the LFS owners i know and you can tell them they don't really have Marble motoros and BD rays.

the teenage element on this forum has just about ruined it.
 
mrblah;5045805; said:
interesting to see where the discussion went.

and to the people questioning my statements, when you make it out of your parents basement or get time off from high school and can make it out to socal i'll introduce you to my neighbor and you can tell him he doesn't keep the fish he has in his garage. or i can introduce you to a couple of the LFS owners i know and you can tell them they don't really have Marble motoros and BD rays.

the teenage element on this forum has just about ruined it.

Its nice in certain subjects and more difficult in ones that require perspective for sure.
 
nicholasdances;5045737; said:
doesn't it drop down to freezing in FL every once in a while? I'd think that alot of the tropical fish couldn't deal with that. has FL had issues with giant snakehead aswell or just the northern?

It does occassionally drop to temps detrimental to invasives in FL. In fact, there are several threads from this past winter discussing the cold snap die-off of millions of tropicals in many areas of FL.
 
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