killing asian arowanas???

[channarox]

i think not. if you can breed this asian arowanas, you shouldve bred it a long time ago. you can have all the land, but still you cannot breed this asian arowana. and you think that you can produce asian arowanas right away as if they are guppies? look philippines get their asian arowanas from overseas farms like indonesia, singapore and malaysia. and that country is just beside indonesia and they are having problem breeding this fish. there is a secret on how to breed these fish and i dont know it. all i know that these fish breed on equatorial climate. and if you forgot asian arowana farmers are much more aiming at asian country because that is their main market due to the fact that they believe that asian arowanas are lucky charms. look you have the land you had not bred this fish. you can have 30 asian arowanas and you lucky to have 1 pair out of them. do you think asian arowana farmers harvest their fish every month?

thats why i said cost wise it will be.... just to get the perfect conditions in the US...

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

There will be enough supply because of supply and demand and the monetary reward associated with it. The U.S. is sparsely populated compared to other countries, if Malaysians and Singaporeans can do it so can we except in much greater numbers due to our great amount of land, the size of our country and market. Of course it won't be possible to supply right away, which I never said would happen and you had wrongly assumed. You are right that there would be a price bump but it would be temporary. You underestimate the power of mass production and breeding. It won't take 30 years IMO, but 30 years is not a long time, like everything in life we need to work on it and future generations will thank us for it. Think of the long run, not just for your own immediate gratification.

You're not getting the point. Assume theres some rich hobbyist in the US, he spends money on land, he spends money on the facility, he gets everything perfect, all thats left is the fish itself. NO ONE is going to sell him a breeding pair of asian aros. Do you really think someone in malay, or indo would give up one of their prized pairs just so the US could start breeding and selling aros? They couldn't care less, they dont get profit from letting the US breed their own aros. And as it was said before like a million times, they DONT breed like guppies. You need to understand that there are certain ways of doing things to breed asian aros, things that the asian farmers are NOT about to share with anyone else. So assuming he actually gets 15 males and 15 females, so what now? Wait like 10 years and HOPE that 2 of them form a pair? No one right now would even bother with a risk like that, it would take money and time to do something that would be profitless for many years. And US is not small, its population is almost 10 times the size of Canada's, if asian aros are rare in Canada, what makes you think they'll have enough to supply a country with 10 times the population of Canada?

 

[channarox]

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

And Fry, you overestimate the power of mass production and breeding. I mean, if we were talking stingrays, they breed like mad, theyre all horny, that would be no problem, but asian aros dont do that. They dont just mate with whatever aro they see, pairs do not form overnight. They form over many years...Years which people will not risk putting money into as its still not 100% certain they'll get a pair...you need to understand that. Its not throw 2 aros in and after a few months your whole pond is full of baby aros.

 

[krichardson]

And Fry, you overestimate the power of mass production and breeding. I mean, if we were talking stingrays, they breed like mad, theyre all horny, that would be no problem, but asian aros dont do that. They dont just mate with whatever aro they see, pairs do not form overnight. They form over many years...Years which people will not risk putting money into as its still not 100% certain they'll get a pair...you need to understand that. Its not throw 2 aros in and after a few months your whole pond is full of baby aros.

Of all the discussions and debates that get prematurely closed on these boards this one can now be rightfully closed,though I am not calling for such action as I dont beleive any discussion should be but Sodnoshirayuki has covered the whole Asian Aro in the states problem point by point.