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jcardona1;4958077; said:
Um yeah NO. This fish is/was a highly popular food fish in Thailand. They were eaten to the point of extinction.
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I totally agree , Just a few days ago there was a video posted up of a chef filleting a asian aro and in the video it was refrenced that the fish was caught in the wild ... Now we know how rare asian aro's are Seeing that their poplations are so low that we ( the US) are not allowed to own one , So if we (the US) know how it is a threatened species , wouldn't the chef know this also ? if so I would think that he would of bought a farm raised aro if he wanted to eat one that bad lol just soemthing to chew on for a bit :):ROFL:
 
Well, just because some things are stated doesn't mean jump out of your pants. Kcameron is stating that some of the extinct fishes is from people fishing aquarium type fish and then they become extinct, no what is stated is that it is another "kick to the dead horse". Most people in the areas where aquarium fish are exported from are poor, I wouldn't blame them for fishing and then selling them, but it keeps them living. So don't start going crazy on Kcameron because he was sharing some things scholars said. I am sure the people who are defending "wild caught fish are fine and no prolems to it" own wild caught, but it is a "kick to a dead horse." Taking something from it's original place is never good but we still do it. CHILL OUT, there is truth in these statements.
 
Ryan75 said:
Well, just because some things are stated doesn't mean jump out of your pants. Kcameron is stating that some of the extinct fishes is from people fishing aquarium type fish and then they become extinct, no what is stated is that it is another "kick to the dead horse". Most people in the areas where aquarium fish are exported from are poor, I wouldn't blame them for fishing and then selling them, but it keeps them living. So don't start going crazy on Kcameron because he was sharing some things scholars said. I am sure the people who are defending "wild caught fish are fine and no prolems to it" own wild caught, but it is a "kick to a dead horse." Taking something from it's original place is never good but we still do it. CHILL OUT, there is truth in these statements.
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Quite right. The point of the post was not to blame the fish trade for ruining the earth or saying wild caught fish are worse than farm-raised. The point is, generally, that harvesting ENDANGERED fish from the wild without the intent to help re-establish the population is morally and economically wrong. It's a practice that can ruin the industry and fish-keeping as well as an ecosystem. I do keep wild caught fish--almost all clown loaches are wild caught--but their wild populations are stable (from what I've read). I just want to raise an air of interest in what is going on with our pets' relatives.

Again, I'm not saying you're bad people for owning wild caught fish
 
That's backwards. We need to study, capture and learn about these fish as they go extinct. The planet is dying rapidly and the more we can have learned about what was here the better. Future generations of biologists will rely heavily on information gathered in these few centuries when they work to track the lineages of new animals they will be finding. Taking fish from the wild for aquarium use is like picking cherries off a dying tree. Enjoy it while you can.
 
Youre thinking about what the industry is doing (for the most part) the wrong way. Yes get information, but do it sustainably. It's possible, trust me. Now throwing a gill net on a small, hindering population just to sell it to a guy who wants a badass tank in his garage is not the kind of science on which future books will be founded.
 
One fine example is the harvesting of FRT wild egg nests in Indonesia. Permits are issued annually for the harvesting of over 2,000,000 eggs. Those few that hatch after harvesting are made available to the pet trade. They're not released back to the wild (would denote a profit loss to the egg collector). The bulk of the eggs are sold to food markets for consumption. If this trend is allowed to continue, wild populations of FRTs will be wiped out. Hopefully, those few that make it to the pet trade will one day prove easy to breed in large numbers. If so, the hobby may prove to be the salvation of this species.
 
Oddball said:
One fine example is the harvesting of FRT wild egg nests in Indonesia. Permits are issued annually for the harvesting of over 2,000,000 eggs. Those few that hatch after harvesting are made available to the pet trade. They're not released back to the wild (would denote a profit loss to the egg collector). The bulk of the eggs are sold to food markets for consumption. If this trend is allowed to continue, wild populations of FRTs will be wiped out. Hopefully, those few that make it to the pet trade will one day prove easy to breed in large numbers. If so, the hobby may prove to be the salvation of this species.
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This it's exactly what I'm talking about, oddball. It's a tricky situation that many law makers don't want to touch because it affects indigenous people so heavily. However, wild populations may be on their way out and we need to know how everyone stands in natural habitats. We can only hope some responsible fish keepers and scientists can figure out a way to keep the industry AND fish populations going...I knew he would understand what I was trying to say, even of I have confused rhetoric
 
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