LARGE Goldfish Suddenly Very Sick! (URGENT!)

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duanes: Well, his lips are having trouble...

Wailua: I actually own three microscopes...once is a crappy piece of ****, and the other two are pretty decent (>$100). Unfortunately my boyfriend has all but the ****ty one right now.
How would I be able to identify the pathogen? Do you have reference images? Also, would I be able to easily, clearly, and accurately identify these bacteria (or whatever else there may be) without doing a staining? I don't have stain supplies right now.
As far as we know, it may not even be a pathogen...
 
This isn't columnarius. I see you have .25 ammonia, what you need to do is completely vacuum your substrate, clean your filter, do another 50% water change. Then redose with prime and stability. Put the fish in a hospital tank with one teaspoon of methylene blue per 5 gallons of water. Do daily 25% water changes in the main tank along with gravel vacuuming until your bio filter catches up to your bio load and your readings look something like 0-0-<20. Plecos and goldfish are a heavy load so increasing your bio capacity will go a long way in improving conditions. Fix the water and you'll fix the fish.

Should the fish devlope a secondary infection be it bacterial or fungal we can address this in the hospital tank seperatly. The methylene blue will improve resperation prevent funguas and detox the affects of ammonia and nitrite. But only use it in the hospital tank not in the main tank as it is will distroy the beneficial bacteria you need to increase in the main tank. If you can, add another filter to the main tank and pack it with bio media.
 
+1...the fact that the fish completely changed behavior in the QT tank makes me think he was stressed by the ammonia in the main tank.
 
I had just completely vacuumed the substrate on Tuesday. I will do it again if you think it is necessary...
Monster is still alive this morning but also still in the same corner. Somehow a pond snail is in the tank and it was on him... :(
I will do the suggested water changes in the main tank. Should I still do 50% today even though I did 50% yesterday?
Is there anything else I should do in the hospital (besides adding Paraguard) to help Monster? I am really worried about him. Do you think he has a chance?
 
yes vaccuum again, yes WC again.

There isn't much you can do but keep changing his water, medicate, and observe.
 
It's late, but yea. I would most definitely not add a heater. I asked if there was one to make sure he wasn't in 80 degree water haha. Any updates on how he's doing?
 
You'll want a second opinion from other users with more experience and knowledge than myself, but maybe adding some of your bio filtration from your filter(s) on the main tank to the filter(s) on the hospital tank may help.
 
I'm not so sure about that. If it were a totally fresh tank I'd agree, but this tank was an established tropical tank for about nine months and has since been fishless (although apparently with some pond snails! Ugh!) for about a month. I can do a water test to be sure, but I'm pretty sure the bio filter is well-established there, although putting an 11" goldfish in a 10 gallon tank is likely to upset the bioload some, I'm sure.
 
JaceBetta said:
I'm not so sure about that. If it were a totally fresh tank I'd agree, but this tank was an established tropical tank for about nine months and has since been fishless (although apparently with some pond snails! Ugh!) for about a month. I can do a water test to be sure, but I'm pretty sure the bio filter is well-established there, although putting an 11" goldfish in a 10 gallon tank is likely to upset the bioload some, I'm sure.
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What BB was in that tank was probably long gone. A QT tank isn't goin to have a well established biofilter anyhow, considering what a QT tank is used for. daily WC's will eliminate the need for tank cycling in that hospital tank...focus on the fish's getting better.
 
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