LED Lighting Question

  • We are currently upgrading MFK. thanks! -neo
Actually I was looking at hero-led.com and they had a 100 watt driver and Complimentary white bulbs. If you did that got a good heat sink and supplemented with like 3 blue rails and one of each red and green that light make a good spot for a nano. Than you won't have to limit yourself on your photosynthetic animals. I think the grand total in wattage at least would go up to 250 ish so you could run at half power, get amazing shimmer, and have happy clams. Everyone knows happyclams make a happy aquarist lol.

I could swear fleshy or nonstophoops where discussing an led build. The bad thing about this lighting is the uncharted territory. That and the nonuniforminarianism of our illustrious hobby. What works for one might crash another. I really want to incorporate LEDs into my 75 gallon build (which should be up in the next couple of weeks.) but I don't want to have a million 3 wattbulbs that will punch the first 5" with par and starve the rest. That's why I brought up the high wattage option because that will punch and the others can supplement spectrum. In theory at least...

Which hero-led website are you talking about? I came across a few websites with "Hero LED" in their address, and hero-led.com didn't work.

Also, as far as I know, the three watt Cree LEDs are the most powerful ones out there; they work pretty well according to a bunch of different sources. The main thing is balancing the spectrum in order to get the best appearance and performace; one also has to be careful about overdriving the LEDs thereby shortening their lifespan by a ton.
 
http://www.hero-ledstore.com/

I don't have any feed back for the customer service here but hey have a boatload of stuff for diy LEDs.

Okay, I wasn't sure if I looked at the correct one. Their prices on the Cree LEDs are higher than the other place, but I think that their drivers are less if I recall correctly.
 
have you looked into the controller you will need to run? plus mounting options? might eat away at that $100 savings over a AI nano.
 
Over the ai sol yes but I have heard questions regarding the spectrum output and over emphasis on pur over a broad spectrum which has had negative results in some reef tanks. But this hobby is very disestablishmentarian.
 
Yes the AIs arent full spectrum like Ecotech Radion. But they are much cheaper and if you look at the spectrum spread from the radion wavelengths longer than 550nm are pretty low. I do think full spectrum are important but I run AIs and I build/setup custom reef tanks for many clients and most have used AIs with great feedback all around. DIY are great for the fact that you can custom build them the way you want but I RARELY meet anyone who is happy with them long term. To actually save money on them you lose much of what makes a professional products great in the long term and thats low maintenance. Just my .02
 
Yes the AIs arent full spectrum like Ecotech Radion. But they are much cheaper and if you look at the spectrum spread from the radion wavelengths longer than 550nm are pretty low. I do think full spectrum are important but I run AIs and I build/setup custom reef tanks for many clients and most have used AIs with great feedback all around. DIY are great for the fact that you can custom build them the way you want but I RARELY meet anyone who is happy with them long term. To actually save money on them you lose much of what makes a professional products great in the long term and thats low maintenance. Just my .02

I agree 100%, bang for the buck the AI Sol is a steal. Would I rather have the radion? Of course, if I had a few grand to drop into lights. The only know two people who have done DIY LED's, both of them scrapped their projects and bought a professional setup.
 
Over the ai sol yes but I have heard questions regarding the spectrum output and over emphasis on pur over a broad spectrum which has had negative results in some reef tanks. But this hobby is very disestablishmentarian.

Yes the AIs arent full spectrum like Ecotech Radion. But they are much cheaper and if you look at the spectrum spread from the radion wavelengths longer than 550nm are pretty low. I do think full spectrum are important but I run AIs and I build/setup custom reef tanks for many clients and most have used AIs with great feedback all around. DIY are great for the fact that you can custom build them the way you want but I RARELY meet anyone who is happy with them long term. Just my .02

I agree 100%, bang for the buck the AI Sol is a steal. Would I rather have the radion? Of course, if I had a few grand to drop into lights. The only know two people who have done DIY LED's, both of them scrapped their projects and bought a professional setup.

The setup I was looking at building was going to be full spectrum; I had planned on integrating a couple red LEDs as well as a couple green LEDs. I guess a better goal would be to make a smaller version of that Ecotech Radion which doesn't require that many more LEDs than making a AI Nano. All of the LEDs would be attached to the heat sink by a solderless connector to avoid the hassle of soldering.

Any reason why the people that you guys know scrapped their DIY projects or were displeased with them?

To actually save money on them you lose much of what makes a professional products great in the long term and thats low maintenance

What's the difference in maintenance?
 
without covers evaporation and salt always end up on the bottom of the heat sink. Also sense you always wire lights in parallel instead of using individual mini drivers your LEDs will not last 10yrs like a pro fixture. I promise you. LED lights suffer from diminishing returns. IE if you buy 3 watt LEDs and you put 3.1Watts into just one of them it will shift spectrum on all of them. You will not be able to see it but it happens, once that happens diode life diminishes the first diode in your system will burn out and so on. All of these things can be fixed in your DIY build. But the cost to do so brings them at the same level as a pro system if not more. all in all you will have to constantly clean the bottom of your fixture if you want it to last and than it still wont be up to par of a pro unit. if the difference is $100 buy a AI nano. not to mention the fixture will look alot better.
 
I was going to put a cover on the bottom in order to keep the salt out. A piece of aluminum is pretty cheap and will look pretty nice, too; I planned on putting a vented canopy of some form around the whole thing to hide it as well as match it to the stand that will be built. Fuses and resistors would be utilized as well as careful tuning of the driver and proper wiring in order to avoid over- or under-volting the LEDs.

I think that a better goal for this project would be to mimic the Ecotech Radion rather than the AI Nano, huh?
 
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