just read through your thread 12 volt man, you fish are beautiful, and growing well. im thinking im going to have to try to track down some of those fake plants you have, they look amazing, i cant find any big enough for my tank, they all look daft! think im also going to move my 2 pieces of big driftwood to either end of the tank on the next water change as these guys are so heavy when they collide with it they move it all anyway! the tails and fins on my 2 big guys are growing back well now, i can see a change every day. im hoping that over the next few weeks with regular water changes, and the addition of the new external filter aswell as the canisters i have in there, these guys should really start to come along nicely. still unsure on the tank mates idea. keep them as just the pair in the 180, or find some silver dollars, i dont want any more huge fish as i want these 2 to stand out completely. im not sure on the clown loaches purely for the ich factor. hmmmmm decisions decisions...