no.Could a Leopard frog and a tiger salamander work well in a 55 gallon paludarium?
no.Could a Leopard frog and a tiger salamander work well in a 55 gallon paludarium?
Amphibians are brutal. I'd not chance it. They don't always consider size before trying to eat something. My ex wanted a frog tank years ago one of the frogs can't remember if it was the whites or monkey ate (tried) one of the peacock frogs, lost both.There is no way the frog could fit in the salamander's mouth I'm not sure about the other way around
Reminds me of how pacman frogs are. One of the #1 causes for their deaths in the wild is due to poor judgement on prey size. These guys often choke to death trying to eat other animals, even their own kind, that are just far too large. Seen it once on Animal Planet where a pacman half of the size of the other was trying to eat him rear end first. It was one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen at the time just due to the bigger frogs bored expression on its face as the lil guy is trying his best to eat him from behind.I’ve seen videos of dwarf frogs going full claw frog and eating things bigger than it. Amphibians have absolutely no judgement about what they are eating.
If the salamander is smaller than the frog, it will just be the other way around. That would be even worse for you, salamanders are toxic and would wind up with both dead.
Had a claw frog for a year, raised it from a tadpole. Named him doc hopper (muppets movie) lol.Reminds me of how pacman frogs are. One of the #1 causes for their deaths in the wild is due to poor judgement on prey size. These guys often choke to death trying to eat other animals, even their own kind, that are just far too large. Seen it once on Animal Planet where a pacman half of the size of the other was trying to eat him rear end first. It was one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen at the time just due to the bigger frogs bored expression on its face as the lil guy is trying his best to eat him from behind.
I had a clawed frog at one point in time, just a small male, and he would shovel every living thing into his face if it got close enough. Used to feed him guppies and angle worms but he eventually grew too big for the 20g I had him in so we stuck him in the native fish tank, it only had a couple of non native fish that's why we called it out native tank. This tank had 1 large mouth bass, 3 yellow perch, 1 black crappie, 1 bluegill, 1 green sunfish, 1 common pleco and 1 bala shark. Well one night he decided he would try to eat the 8in bala shark when he himself was only about 4-4½in long. It scared the ever living @#$_ out of the bala shark but otherwise there was no damage done to anybody. Oh btw my frogs name was Frank lol.
i completely agree, the amount of water might not be disagreeable for the salamander. the species will often stay in its pupal stage its whole life if its A.in a permanent body of water or B. the environment around the body of water has changed and the salamander some how knows its unsuitable (this happened with many salamander species after st.helens it is also common in areas that are newly developed and places that no longer have woods due to forest fire). the salamander will eat the frog if he can catch it which i could see happening if both were in the water. if you really are bent on mixing amphibian species pick ones that wont mix. you could do a pacman frog and an axolotl if youre not worried about disease because the pacman needs relatively little space and rarely swim (im not recommending you do this either).I personally wouldn’t. Too much risk of disease transfer and there is a risk of the salamander poisoning the frog. Frog also would prefer a more aquatic environment than the salamander (though both will want some water).
Amphibians are almost always best species only.
i made a pacman paludarium once that had khuli loaches mollies and vampire shrimp. the only issue was the vampire would come to the shallow end where the pacman frog could see him, the pacman frog would lunge at the shrimp which would cause the shrimp to walk up even closer to the frog and kick him with his large front legs so i moved the shrimp to a different tank and he happened to kick a dwarf frog across the tank for biting a fan which resulted in the frogs death. i wouldnt have minded if he ate the fish since i bought them with that purpose in mind but the frog was uninterested or unfazed.Reminds me of how pacman frogs are. One of the #1 causes for their deaths in the wild is due to poor judgement on prey size. These guys often choke to death trying to eat other animals, even their own kind, that are just far too large. Seen it once on Animal Planet where a pacman half of the size of the other was trying to eat him rear end first. It was one of the most hilarious things I've ever seen at the time just due to the bigger frogs bored expression on its face as the lil guy is trying his best to eat him from behind.
I had a clawed frog at one point in time, just a small male, and he would shovel every living thing into his face if it got close enough. Used to feed him guppies and angle worms but he eventually grew too big for the 20g I had him in so we stuck him in the native fish tank, it only had a couple of non native fish that's why we called it out native tank. This tank had 1 large mouth bass, 3 yellow perch, 1 black crappie, 1 bluegill, 1 green sunfish, 1 common pleco and 1 bala shark. Well one night he decided he would try to eat the 8in bala shark when he himself was only about 4-4½in long. It scared the ever living @#$_ out of the bala shark but otherwise there was no damage done to anybody. Oh btw my frogs name was Frank lol.
i dont mean to be so harsh but this is either a joke or the worst tankmate ideas ive ever heard if i understand what youre saying correctly. herps are not fish and should not be in mixed species tanks. its not like a fishtank. keeping two different species of amphibians together is like keeping a hairy puffer with a red wolf fish they are both determined predators and will try to eat eachother even if it doesnt make sense. if you put a garter snake with a tiger salamander (i assume this is the species of snake you’re talking about because it spends so much time in the water) i can promise it wouldnt end well. most likely the salamander would attempt to eat it and not be able to killing the snake and possibly harming the salamander if he bites the tail instead of the head. dart frogs would be nothing more than expensive feeder crickets.dart frogs.... What would be your guess of the water area size? Ever considered a snake? Pics will help.
this is just wrong. im sure the tiger salamander would attempt to eat it. id bet actual money that if the frog did end up in its mouth that the frog would be swallowed with little issue. the only way it wouldnt be swallowed is if the salamander isnt full grown yet or if the front legs of the frog get caught on the corners of the salamanders mouth. leopard frogs arent big frogs by any means they may be a little long but theyre super arrow dynamic ie easy to swallow. ive watched tiger salamanders eat other tiger salamanders within a few inches of themselves and ive watched frogs eat frogs the same size as themselves.There is no way the frog could fit in the salamander's mouth I'm not sure about the other way around