LETS DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE THREAT

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Promoting healthy ocean ecology is a great cause and one I will get behind. However, I think we need to have a good idea of exactly what we are promoting and why.

Commercial fishing is not the problem. Banning commercial fishing in favor of farming is A) not going to happen and B) wouldn't fix anything if it did happen. The trouble is unsustainable harvest and lethality to bycatch. These problems are being addressed well by some countries, and not at all by others; there needs to be worldwide cooperation in these matters.

This is really something that can only happen with cooperation between national governments. In other words, there isn't much we can do about it except to encourage our elected officials to make it a priority. There are already various lobbying groups doing this; it would be better for us to add our voices and support to one of those groups than to form a new, superfluous group to do the same thing.

What we can do as individuals is make sure we only consume responsibly harvested or farmed seafood. There is a lot of info on the web about this. For example, orange roughy are slow-maturing fish that are very susceptible to overfishing, so avoid those. Farmed salmon is ecologically very destructive, so choose wild-caught instead. Farmed tilapia from the Americas (but not from Asia) on the other hand is a good responsible choice. Farmed shrimp and prawns are somewhere in between, but markedly improving. Do your research!

So what could we do as a group? I suggest that a very good thing for us to do is to help disseminate information on the impacts of various species. Education is the key to change. Another possibility is providing grants to researchers looking at marine and aquatic conservation, sustainable harvest techniques, low-impact farming, etc.

*EDIT* A good source for info on sustainable seafood is Monterey Bay Aquarium's Seafood Watch: http://www.montereybayaquarium.org/cr/cr_seafoodwatch/sfw_whatsnew.aspx
 
I agree with Noto, but if we do the little things like promte healthy recreational fishing and advertise products that have been farmed or sustainably caught, then we will make a huge difference in a matter of one decade. eg Australia.

my advise is to watch Ifish an example for all fisherman to fish sustainably and see the difference. or Ultimate fishing adventures. they are great examples of how fishing should be.

Ive seen so many recreational fisherman take more than they need and it is a great waste once an area is depleted.
 
Noto's on the right track here, substainable harverst is the way to go. Believe it or not, The US is actually pretty well regulated when it comes it this as a whole. You are never going to ban commercial fishing completely, thank goodness. Don't attack an industry as a whole, find something specific that doesn't seem to be right and go from there. Remeber, states have paid biologist looking after their fish cause commerically harvested fish put millions into their states pocket. They want the fish to go away even less than you do. Just a ramble from a guy who has made more than a few bucks commercial fishing.
 
I partially agree with this topic.

but i don't agree that kids of the future won't get to go seeing the beauty of the ocean because of over-fishing.

1) unless you go swimming with schools of tuna (and other food fish), they won't really miss out on much "beauty". To get technical, tuna and other food fish etc. swim out in DEEP parts of the ocean with very little to see in terms of life mostly because its cold open water and if you ever been spear fishing WAYYY out where the tuna is (most caught commercial fish). there is mostly blue, blue, and more blue with some black. there ARE some beauty in it in terms of life like seeing an occasional whale or sharks, schools of the tuna, cudas, needlefish.. but its pretty much just a bunch of like silver fish and the vast "inner space void" out there.

2) most people can find a TON of beauty in reef diving (where most people go to find beauty in ocean life because its closer/easier to find things). and commercial fishermen don't catch reef dwelling fish which there is absolutely no shortage of. Commercial fishermen don't catch them, AQUARISTS AND AQUARIUM fishermen do. but demand is low enough to sustain it unlike PETA suggests.

I think the main concern here for our future when it comes to commercial fishing for food, its not that our kids won't be able to appreciate the "beauty" in it, but more that they will never be able to taste it.

its a food matter. which the world isn't short on i give you. but the variety and placement of the food is just very unbalanced and depleting a link in the food chain will definitely, how should i say, **** things up.
 
Err;3444778; said:
I totaly agree with you man, I want to do somthing and after thinking about it for a min, it will never happen. It would have to be an international world wide commercial fishing regulation and enforcement that would have a bazzilion gajillion dollar price tag for it to be effective. On top of that it would cut off a LARGE chunk of many countries economies, as well as cut off a major food source supply. No government would actually enforce somthing that would help our cause when they have the food industry and fishemen's union ect. lobbying their reprisenatives with thousands and thousands of dollars in "contributions" each year to keep the laws lax on things of this nature. Depressing and sad, but its true.

not true. in fact, one reason we are being told these things are an alibi to hike up price tags. there ARE regulations, and even vast floating gates with farm raised tuna out there.

i do agree with you that its not enough however. and WE are also to blame because we love eating fish and going to fancy restaurants that serve wild tuna. if its cheap its farm raised. if its expensive they caught it or said they did.
 
Bump and im all for the cause. Fact is other countries mexico etc just pollute the crap out of the water and don't care they also overfish. I saw recently in Japan I believe the dumbasses ate a super endangered megamouth ! Theres no way we can control the other countries from being stupid so it has to start here...
 
Increasing temperatures in the worlds oceans is the biggest threat to the worlds corals...

So if you buy the human motivated global warming idea, then turn off all of your aquariums to help lower electrical consumption...

:jaw:
 
when the buying stops the killing can to..animal planet ad :)
 
tcarswell;3447616; said:
I saw recently in Japan I believe the dumbasses ate a super endangered megamouth ! Theres no way we can control the other countries from being stupid so it has to start here...

appalling! sources???

and was it hunted? or dying?
 
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