Liquid Co2? Your thoughts.

[Juxtaroberto]

Not true. Some plants will do ok with low levels of Co2 while others demand it. And adding more lights and/or nutrients leads to problems. In fact, adding more lights drives the demand up for CO2 by plants. And this causes algae problems too. About 90% of plants will grow with low lights but they grow slow with lower light.

That's what "usually" means. Although I should have clarified that a deficit of light and nutrients could be the problem, not that that he should add more light and nutrients despite whatever his current levels are.

You guys are giving advice on the planted tank section and you haven't used or apparently even heard of "liquid" co2 supplements? Tsk tsk.

Might be a liquid carbon supplement, but I'll eat my foot if it's liquid carbon dioxide.

 

[aclockworkorange]

Might be a liquid carbon supplement, but I'll eat my foot if it's liquid carbon dioxide.

It's liquid you put in your tank that provides a source of co2 and is commonly known in the hobby among planted tank enthusiasts, period.

Jcardona posted a thread a few weeks ago that had a link where you could buy the chemical found in excel in bulk in a more concentrated formula for less money.

 

[Outlander]

They have a liquid CO2 made by API I believe. It is very similar to excel. I assume that other product is the same. They have very similar formulas to excel but in my opinion are probably less potent. Look up some reviews if you can about it. Then give it a try.

Well if Excel gives positive results (which I'm sure it does judging by how popular it is) and this product is similar, I'll give it a shot after reading reviews on it of course! Thanks for your help

Might be a liquid carbon supplement, but I'll eat my foot if it's liquid carbon dioxide.

My mistake lol. It's actually - 'Co2 Liquid'! NOT "Liquid Co2"...

It's liquid you put in your tank that provides a source of co2 and is commonly known in the hobby among planted tank enthusiasts, period.

Jcardona posted a thread a few weeks ago that had a link where you could buy the chemical found in excel in bulk in a more concentrated formula for less money.

Brilliant. So if it's well known in the planted tank world, can I presume it works?
I'll check out Jcardona's thread and the link you mentioned

Thanks again for all your help. I may drag this thread up at a later date to let you know how things went on

Regards Outlander.

 

[MonsterMinis]

I would look at your doseing amounts.. you said the plants wheren't looking good.. not that they wheren't growing... usualy plants looking "poor" it a nutrient defficency not a co2 issue. adding co2 to a low light set-up thats nutrient poor isn't going to change anything other then likely cause your plants to degrade faster.

whats species of plants are you keeping in the tank? I can't believe no ones asked you that question.

 

[Juxtaroberto]

It's liquid you put in your tank that provides a source of carbon and is commonly known in the hobby among planted tank enthusiasts, period.

Jcardona posted a thread a few weeks ago that had a link where you could buy the chemical found in excel in bulk in a more concentrated formula for less money.

Is it really so unbelievable that when someone says "liquid CO2" the first thing my mind thinks of is actual CO2 in its liquid state?

Oh, and fixed. It's definitely not a semantic argument when we're talking about two completely different molecules.

I still maintain, as I said before (albeit I admit I did not explain myself very well), to check lights and other nutrients first. If they are satisfactory for the plants in his tank, then he should look into carbon supplementation, whether it is in the form of dissolved CO2 or other carbon compounds.

 

[Outlander]

Hi. I keep snakeheads which HATE water changes (and bright light), so I don't add ferts in any of my tanks on a regular basis. Fish waste generally takes care of fertilising and this builds up over time. This goes for all my tanks which are doing fine. It's just the one that I'm struggling with. I've tried many plants in there but at the moment I'm down to Amazon swords, Anubias nana, Microsolium, Echinodorus Barthii, watersprite, plus floating plants - Amazon frog bit, really easy stuff but even they are looking 'flimsy'. I added some ferts yesterday and will leave it a while to see if it promotes any new growth and then add the Co2 liquid if needed.

 

[Laticauda]

I think it's already been cleared up, but I think what Juxta was saying was that plants need a carbon source. CO2 just happens to be the common, conventional way to deliver carbon to plants in an aquarium setting, and the liquids you buy are just another form of carbon that's available to plants. Two different things that do the same thing.

 

[Outlander]

I think it's already been cleared up, but I think what Juxta was saying was that plants need a carbon source. CO2 just happens to be the common, conventional way to deliver carbon to plants in an aquarium setting, and the liquids you buy are just another form of carbon that's available to plants. Two different things that do the same thing.

Thanks for your input Laticauda. Have you tried Co2 liquid? If so how did you find it? Would you recommend it using it?

 

[Laticauda]

Thanks for your input Laticauda. Have you tried Co2 liquid? If so how did you find it? Would you recommend it using it?

I've been using Excel (not religiously, just when I remember) on my planted 58 gallon tank, and it seems to be making great improvement. I've seen considerable growth in my crypts (which are notoriously slow-growers) but I've also been using Flourish along with the Excel, so I can't really say if it's because of one or the other, or even both together.

I say it's worth a shot to give it a try on your tank, to see if it helps. You just need to be sure you have enough light and nutrients in the water before adding any carbon supplement. Let us know what you decide to do, and how it all turns out

 

[Outlander]

I've been using Excel (not religiously, just when I remember) on my planted 58 gallon tank, and it seems to be making great improvement. I've seen considerable growth in my crypts (which are notoriously slow-growers) but I've also been using Flourish along with the Excel, so I can't really say if it's because of one or the other, or even both together.

I say it's worth a shot to give it a try on your tank, to see if it helps. You just need to be sure you have enough light and nutrients in the water before adding any carbon supplement. Let us know what you decide to do, and how it all turns out

Ok will do Thanks again for your time and good to hear things are going well in your tanks especially with the crypts. A variety I personally love, but have had very little luck with