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jdepasqu2;1119396; said:
brad what is the ray in the second to last picture...., looks like a marbled motoro mix/hybrid........... was it wild caught???


Hey. Thats my male marble motoro.. Hes a good looking ray. Yes it was wild caught...Colin has a pic of it when it was a pup.. Its Colins old marble.
 
yah...., I would love to see some more pictures of that ray....., it is very interesting and beautiful.
 
jdepasqu2;1119714; said:
yah...., I would love to see some more pictures of that ray....., it is very interesting and beautiful.



post number #41.. Those pics are fresh into a new pond.. Hes darker now.. like that last pic I posted.. I will snap some updates
 
YAH...., HE IS DEFINITLY UNIQUE......., I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN A MARBLED LIKE THAT......., HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANY OTHERS LIKE THAT??? I WONDER HOW THAT HAPPENS........., AND HOW EXACTLY MARBLED MOTOROS COME ABOUT IN THE WILD....

I OFTEN WONDER IF MARBLED MOTOROS ARE SIMPLY JUST MOTORO MORPHS......, WHEN A REGULAR (OLIVE) MOTORO MATES WITH ANOTHER TYPE OF RAY.... OR ARE THEY JUST A PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION AND A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT (RIVER SYSTEM).....

BRAD, DO YOU EXPECT TO GET MARBLED MOTORO PUPS FROM MARBLED PARENTS??? i WONDER IF THEY WILL LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THAT RAY....?
 
There are a couple of them about, all male. This is Thomas K's marble motoro.

I've seen many marble motoros look like normal motoros when they grow up. There is a shop nearby, and the owner has been keeping three marbles for 5 years. The 20" female looks almost completely motoro, but the other female who is 20" looks like a marble, as does the male.
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jdepasqu2;1120076; said:
YAH...., HE IS DEFINITLY UNIQUE......., I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN A MARBLED LIKE THAT......., HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANY OTHERS LIKE THAT??? I WONDER HOW THAT HAPPENS........., AND HOW EXACTLY MARBLED MOTOROS COME ABOUT IN THE WILD....

I OFTEN WONDER IF MARBLED MOTOROS ARE SIMPLY JUST MOTORO MORPHS......, WHEN A REGULAR (OLIVE) MOTORO MATES WITH ANOTHER TYPE OF RAY.... OR ARE THEY JUST A PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION AND A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT (RIVER SYSTEM).....

BRAD, DO YOU EXPECT TO GET MARBLED MOTORO PUPS FROM MARBLED PARENTS??? i WONDER IF THEY WILL LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THAT RAY....?


I talked to the guy who orignally owned the ray that brad has. That male has had 15 liters and not one ever looked like him. He has never bred with one of the female marbles that brad has now so we shall see if we get some odd marbles. Correct me If I am wrong colin or brad but that male has never bred with a marble right? I just don't understand how they look so odd then when you bred them nothing looks like them. I think there is genes that we need to figure out still or what they are cross breeding with in the wild. Refer to Mikes thread about hybrids on this matter.
 
Sorry for the n00b question/comment but could marbled motoros be a motoro and pearl hybrid? Does anyone have a a picture of a motoro/pearl hybrid?
 
ray777;1120167; said:
I talked to the guy who orignally owned the ray that brad has. That male has had 15 liters and not one ever looked like him. He has never bred with one of the female marbles that brad has now so we shall see if we get some odd marbles. Correct me If I am wrong colin or brad but that male has never bred with a marble right? I just don't understand how they look so odd then when you bred them nothing looks like them. I think there is genes that we need to figure out still or what they are cross breeding with in the wild. Refer to Mikes thread about hybrids on this matter.

Hey. That is true,. The male has had many litters with a large dark motoro. And this pic is of one of the pups. So YOu can see the mix. Dark mom and light dad made this pup. I hope to have pups soon. Lots of clean water and lots of food:naughty: I cant wait to see what the pups look like.

first pic is that male again
2nd pic is of the pup from his past litter with a DARK female
3rd pic is of the female i hope he breeds with

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jdepasqu2;1120076; said:
YAH...., HE IS DEFINITLY UNIQUE......., I'VE NEVER REALLY SEEN A MARBLED LIKE THAT......., HAVE YOU EVER SEEN ANY OTHERS LIKE THAT??? I WONDER HOW THAT HAPPENS........., AND HOW EXACTLY MARBLED MOTOROS COME ABOUT IN THE WILD....

I OFTEN WONDER IF MARBLED MOTOROS ARE SIMPLY JUST MOTORO MORPHS......, WHEN A REGULAR (OLIVE) MOTORO MATES WITH ANOTHER TYPE OF RAY.... OR ARE THEY JUST A PRODUCT OF EVOLUTION AND A DIFFERENT ENVIRONMENT (RIVER SYSTEM).....

BRAD, DO YOU EXPECT TO GET MARBLED MOTORO PUPS FROM MARBLED PARENTS??? i WONDER IF THEY WILL LOOK ANYTHING LIKE THAT RAY....?

Hey! Ive never seen a large marble with this pattern. Wish i did! what happens is the pattern is tight and close together when young, And when the rays grows. The pattern spreads apart. I will have pups soon I hope!
 
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