LM BASS set up question???

[TJB101084]

Ya in all actuality (at least from what I have read) bass grow 2” every 6 months. This is what led me to believe the 10gal set up would be sufficient as a temporary set up.

 

[cichla81]

Ya in all actuality (at least from what I have read) bass grow 2” every 6 months. This is what led me to believe the 10gal set up would be sufficient as a temporary set up.

i would say that is off. a bass will grow on average an inch a month

 

[yogurt_21]

are you saying a lmb will grow more than 18-20 inches in a year? dont think so

i would say that is off. a bass will grow on average an inch a month

average is key lmb (and most fish in general) grow faster when young. but in 6 -12 months 4 lmb (who started at 2-3") will be 12-16" that's the ceiling for a 150g and even over actually.

those fish wont stand a chance at all in a 10g for 2-3 months no if's, ands, or, buts about it.

not to mention based on what happens most often, he'll likely fail to acquire that 150g anyway.

I know you think you're being helpful to the OP, but you're not. By encouraging him to keep the fish you are setting him up for failure and the fish up for death.

@ Op do yourself and the fish a favor and take them back, by your own admission you've already lost 3, how many more will it take to get you to start conservative?

Once you've learned the basics and acquired larger setups you can think about lmb. Your in no position to house them currently.

 

[kallmond]

If you take really terrible care of them and have them live in horrid conditions and barely feed them they'd probably only grow 1/2 an inch in a year... And if they died they wouldn't grow at all.

That would be fine for a 10 gallon right?

</sarcasm>

The only way you should stuff these fish in a 10 gallon is if you already own and are cycling the 150g. Oherwise leave them at the LFS and buy them when you have a decent place to house them.

 

[cichla81]

i wasnt encouraging him to keep them in a 10 gal for 2-3 months. but to say that if he does will end in death is ridiculous. ive seen and heard of people keeping oscars in 10 gallons til they are 8-9 inches, which isnt good at all. all im saying is be truthful with the guy. its not good they stay long at all in a 10 gal but to say they will die is stretching it. he is new to fishkeeping obviously, but us who have kept fish for a long time do not need to lie to the guy to fix his problem.
of course, TJB if you cant get anything better than a 10 gallon for 2-3 months, then take em back or find someone who can keep them til you are ready.

 

[TJB101084]

average is key lmb (and most fish in general) grow faster when young. but in 6 -12 months 4 lmb (who started at 2-3") will be 12-16" that's the ceiling for a 150g and even over actually.

those fish wont stand a chance at all in a 10g for 2-3 months no if's, ands, or, buts about it.

not to mention based on what happens most often, he'll likely fail to acquire that 150g anyway.

I know you think you're being helpful to the OP, but you're not. By encouraging him to keep the fish you are setting him up for failure and the fish up for death.

@ Op do yourself and the fish a favor and take them back, by your own admission you've already lost 3, how many more will it take to get you to start conservative?

Once you've learned the basics and acquired larger setups you can think about lmb. Your in no position to house them currently.

As broad as a statement as that is I understand what you’re saying and appreciate the helpful insight. Hence my original posts. I needed info I did not have myself. Surprisingly enough “How to set up a LM BASS tank and care” is a little hard to find on the web.

In addition I am not some 15yr old on here with a dream. I’m 26 and currently have (including the bass tank) 5 tanks total. 150 gal in the living room with a large number of tropicals, 60 gal in the den with a red eared slider, another 60 gal containing live plants and feeder fish (for the turtle), the bass tank, and the wife’s 30 gal (pretty fish) tank.

To finalize if what is determined here which from what I hear it is, the fish will die with out a bigger tank. Simple enough, I will get a bigger tank.

Considering I purchased the fish from eBay (some one 4 states over) I believe sending them back is not an option.

I will buy a bigger but still temporary tank this weekend such as another 60 gal until I can make room for a 150 plus tank.

Any one oppose a 60 gal temp tank?

 

[yogurt_21]

i wasnt encouraging him to keep them in a 10 gal for 2-3 months. but to say that if he does will end in death is ridiculous. ive seen and heard of people keeping oscars in 10 gallons til they are 8-9 inches, which isnt good at all. all im saying is be truthful with the guy. its not good they stay long at all in a 10 gal but to say they will die is stretching it. he is new to fishkeeping obviously, but us who have kept fish for a long time do not need to lie to the guy to fix his problem.
of course, TJB if you cant get anything better than a 10 gallon for 2-3 months, then take em back or find someone who can keep them til you are ready.

he's already lost 3, reread the first post. If anything you're encouragment is a lie, "someone" may have been able to keep an oscar in a 10g. and that is absolutely horrid you mgiht as well have kept a great dane in a 3x2 box. But based on what he's told us, he will not be able to keep them alive in a 10g.

It is a disservice to the fish and to him to state anything different than learn the basics and then when you have a proper home you can keep them. If the lfs had been diligent in it's questions this would never have been an issue.

Shoot i just picked up a few more mollies for my breeding and the first thign they asked was how big a tank I have.

 

[yogurt_21]

As broad as a statement as that is I understand what you&#8217;re saying and appreciate the helpful insight. Hence my original posts. I needed info I did not have myself. Surprisingly enough &#8220;How to set up a LM BASS tank and care&#8221; is a little hard to find on the web.

In addition I am not some 15yr old on here with a dream. I&#8217;m 26 and currently have (including the bass tank) 5 tanks total. 150 gal in the living room with a large number of tropicals, 60 gal in the den with a red eared slider, another 60 gal containing live plants and feeder fish (for the turtle), the bass tank, and the wife&#8217;s 30 gal (pretty fish) tank.

To finalize if what is determined here which from what I hear it is, the fish will die with out a bigger tank. Simple enough, I will get a bigger tank.

Considering I purchased the fish from eBay (some one 4 states over) I believe sending them back is not an option.

I will buy a bigger but still temporary tank this weekend such as another 60 gal until I can make room for a 150 plus tank.

Any one oppose a 60 gal temp tank?

to play devils advocate, why wasn't this brought up in the original post? Your statement above seems opposite your original.

I currently am battling my new large mouth bass set up. I have 4 2-3&#8221; LM Bass set up in a 10gal tank. Well I had to replace 3 fish already due to the fact one died in transport and 2 died because I fed them minnows and they choked.

My question to you intelligent people (Which obviously I am not) is what would be the ideal 10gal set up for these fish? I need to know temps, water maintenance, and any other important info I might need to know. I don&#8217;t think I wanna see another dead bass in my tank so I need to get this right.

I realize a 10gal set up is small but this is only temporary for about 2 &#8211; 3 months and I will purchase a 150gal or bigger.

Thanks for your help&#8230;&#8230;.

 

[TJB101084]

he's already lost 3, reread the first post. If anything you're encouragment is a lie, "someone" may have been able to keep an oscar in a 10g. and that is absolutely horrid you mgiht as well have kept a great dane in a 3x2 box. But based on what he's told us, he will not be able to keep them alive in a 10g.

It is a disservice to the fish and to him to state anything different than learn the basics and then when you have a proper home you can keep them. If the lfs had been diligent in it's questions this would never have been an issue.

Shoot i just picked up a few more mollies for my breeding and the first thign they asked was how big a tank I have.

They didnt die from a smal tank.

1. Died in transit. (mail)
2. Died from being only 2" and eating or tying to eat another 1"plus fish.

None died from small tank Disease

 

[MonsterMinis]

lol, my advise after keeping LMB in the past. Go big.. I'de seriously look at the Cichla (peacock bass) info threads and garner some insight as to what your getting yourself into. Their needs are going ot be different.. But many are also very alike. a 55 gallon would be a good starter tank for these fish. it will give them room to grow and room to move around. There should also be some good info about LMB in the Natives subforum as well. a 55 should last them until about 6"-8" as a trio. But personally I'de make plans for the indoor basement pond to house them indeffinately/ or 300+gal tank. They are really beautiful fish imo as well fed adults. Nicer then some of the Cichla i've seen (don't keel meh! Cichla people!)

GL on your enterprize.

and I agree driftwood logs as decor, and leave nice open space for "patrolling"

Guppies, Mollys, frozen bloodworms, cichlid pellets. ime are all fairly easily taken as well as nightcrawlers. But for 2-3" try Hikari cichlid mini pellets, and feeder guppies. Breed your own is best otherwise Quarantine any feeders you buy. Likely how they caught the Ick to begin with.