Male flaveolus

[Brandonclark88]

Just a quick update on my male flaveolus. He's just over 13". Have him paired with a smaller 5-6" female. They've had a few spawns but they usually eat them not long after they're free swimming. Hopefully I can save some from the next spawn

 

[astrocreep]

I watched a YouTube video the other day stating that a barred Midas is close enough to a citrinellum that if bred together the offspring isnt considered a hybrid....

is this true?

 

[tlindsey]

I watched a YouTube video the other day stating that a barred Midas is close enough to a citrinellum that if bred together the offspring isnt considered a hybrid....

is this true?

duanes
RD.

 

[Gourami Swami]

amphilophus is one of those genus that has been fragmented a million times, and will continue to be, due to so many slightly different locales and similar but "different enough" fish. "Barred Midas" or any type of "midas" is considered to be citrinellum, so technically, breeding different citrinellum to each other does not produce a hybrid fish. However, that is not to say that all citrinellum are 100% genetically similar, and in the future there will probably be more amphilophus species described.
A similar situation would be dovii- for example, Nicaraguan and costa rican dovii are noticeably different, yet are both dovii. If you breed a costa rican to a Nicaraguan dovii, you will probably get a fish with some characteristics of both locales- the fish is a pure dovii, not a hybrid, but no longer a pure costa-rican or Nicaraguan dovii.

 

[Brandonclark88]

Technically a barred citrinellum or barred madas is still a Midas. I'd imagine their genetic makeup would be extremely similar. But this is not a citrinellum.

 

[astrocreep]

Technically a barred citrinellum or barred madas is still a Midas. I'd imagine their genetic makeup would be extremely similar. But this is not a citrinellum.

I asked because when I searched flaveolus, I thought it said it was called a "barred midas"

 

[Brandonclark88]

I asked because when I searched flaveolus, I thought it said it was called a "barred midas"

They're similar, like all barred amphs. But there are slight differences physically and genetically as well.

 

[Brandonclark88]

Not exactly related to the current conversation... But just figured I'd show what these guys look like while spawning as well

 

[dan518]

I asked because when I searched flaveolus, I thought it said it was called a "barred midas"

Shows why scientific names are useful. Midas is a amphilophus citrinellus, two barred parents can spawn a fish which will peel and turn into the yellow colour and vice versa. Amphilophus flaveolus is very similar to citrinellus but comes from lake apoyo,

 

[astrocreep]

Shows why scientific names are useful. Midas is a amphilophus citrinellus, two barred parents can spawn a fish which will peel and turn into the yellow colour and vice versa. Amphilophus flaveolus is very similar to citrinellus but comes from lake apoyo,

They also look similar to Amarillo and Chancho as well. I've yet to keep any Amphs, my biggest tank is a 5ft 120gal. I assume I could get away with one big male of some species of amph, but right now is occupied by an Oscar and a Texas.