Like I said it was my theory. Theories are often laughed at. And so maybe I made up a number of what I thought was to be a good guess but even still like you said the rest is true. All fish will be different and I have seen many that people assume infertile reproduce. Just give your fish time.
Male Flowerhorn fertility?
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BrynMichael;3005703; said:
hypothesis, you dont have any evidence to back your claim. but that is a good hypothesis, its possible bro.
Mike fail;3005748; said:
I can back him up as you know its all depend on the asia farm. Not all import FH is infertile as some of the import is not come from farm but if it is come from FH farm then chances are you get yourself a infertile. I got 8 import and many of my friend have about 10 more and all of them is infertile.
from what i know kamfas with red eye has a higher possible chance of being fertile then the kamfas with white/yellowish eye.
christ4paul;3007429; said:
that is correct, but then kamfa fertile when they fully adult and that will take almost 1.5 to 2 years for it to reach adult hood. So if you get a kamfa then don't try to breed them yet, just wait for it full grown.
I have also read on the net that the asian breeders chemically steralize the fish, from what I read they do it when the fish are very young and they don't even have to separate the males and females because only the male reproductive system is affected by the chemical/chemicals so this is not just a made up guess I have read it on a few sites before. I don't know if there is proof to the theory only the breeders know the real secrets.
You guys makes it so confusing.
In the old day when Thailand have not exported fh yet. Most of the fh that comes into the states are from Malaysia. Malaysia exporters will only send out males and no females. The males are fertiles but what good will it do when there is no female to reproduce.
Back then, blue dragon, jks were very popular and once in a while, hobbyist would get lucky and get a female fh and she would fetch a very high price.
When the Thais exporter starts selling fh, they imported males and females but some of the females are not fertiles. I do not know what they did to them but my guess is hormones in the feeds. My friend and I imported 10 red dragon females and we split up the fish and out of 10, only 2 manage to laid eggs after keeping them for almost 1 year. I do not import fh anymore but I get females here and there from thailand and they were fertile.
The only male fh that I know is infertile is kamfas, since I do not have any experience with king kamfas. I have heard that kamfahs will be fertile when they get older. I am guess this is because of the fish that they use to breed kamfah are more fertile when they get older. I use to keep a lot of kamfahs because of their colors compared to zz but I never kept them long enought to fully mature to find out if they are indeed fertile at a later age.
In the old day when Thailand have not exported fh yet. Most of the fh that comes into the states are from Malaysia. Malaysia exporters will only send out males and no females. The males are fertiles but what good will it do when there is no female to reproduce.
Back then, blue dragon, jks were very popular and once in a while, hobbyist would get lucky and get a female fh and she would fetch a very high price.
When the Thais exporter starts selling fh, they imported males and females but some of the females are not fertiles. I do not know what they did to them but my guess is hormones in the feeds. My friend and I imported 10 red dragon females and we split up the fish and out of 10, only 2 manage to laid eggs after keeping them for almost 1 year. I do not import fh anymore but I get females here and there from thailand and they were fertile.
The only male fh that I know is infertile is kamfas, since I do not have any experience with king kamfas. I have heard that kamfahs will be fertile when they get older. I am guess this is because of the fish that they use to breed kamfah are more fertile when they get older. I use to keep a lot of kamfahs because of their colors compared to zz but I never kept them long enought to fully mature to find out if they are indeed fertile at a later age.
Let me tell you, now a day not just flower horn that get medication for infertile, but almost all man made fish from a farm will get medication for infertile. There is also an exception that some male can get a way with it but chances are very low. This is really suck for a hobby like us but from the farmer point of view it is a great way to save their business. So keep in mind fish that sell in the LFS and any fish that man made chances are they get medication in them. Forgot to mention only the high end fish get medication, they don't border with low end one.
