ya guys this is getting completely out of hand... this guy on here was asking for advice,,, people post their own opinions and try to show what they have... this is not a bash on anyone but i think this needs to get back to the original topic that was beibng posted about... bc this is supposed to be informative not only for the person starting the post but for anyone reading it as well... people all raise animals in different ways... with failure comes success... the knowledge of knowing not to do that again... lol