Anyone have any first hand info? I've heard 14 in max. I have one that I got in I believe it was March (this year). Was sold to me as a Hybrid and then I.D.'d here as a Mantilla. Since I picked it up it's grown 2 inches across and is now at 14 in across. I really don't think it's even close to done growing. It's a female (maybe get a lot bigger). So IS this thing done growing or is thier max size more like that of a Motoro?
Mantilla max size??
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Kevaldo;2128252; said:
stingrayguy;2128237; said:
Just goin by what was said HERE. We all know I don't know shibby bout them..... If it's really a big deal exactly who I can try to dig up the old threads. Does look to me to be similar to what everyone calls Mantillas..... NOT saying that's what it is....just that it looks similar. PS welcome back Brad.
I think since 'Mantilla' is usually a generic term thrown around these days, much like 'Teacup' for small rays, Mantilla is term for a ray with a sporadic scribble pattern - There is no definitive max size at this point.
Dr. Ross and Jose Mantilla were harvesting and exporting rays out of the wild with this 'Mantilla' pattern - and that is where the name originated. Soon thereafter, many hybrids from Asia would also get this label because of the similar color pattern to what was known in the hobby as 'Mantilla'.. I have also heard that they stay small, in the 14" range, but unless you can definitively prove that the ray was harvest out of the wild from Brazil, it could just be a guessing game when it comes to genetics and max size. Not to mention, there is a good possibility that some rays we call mantilla might be a geographic morph, while other rays we call mantilla could be a product of hybridization in the wild.. because there are definitely some hybrids coming from asia that look identical to the 'mantilla' rays harvest from Brazil.
Sooo.. its possible that the true Mantilla that was harvested from a specific locale by Dr. Ross/Mantilla in the mid-90s may stay small - but at this point Mantilla should just be considered a generic term to describe rays with these type of patterns.
Dr. Ross and Jose Mantilla were harvesting and exporting rays out of the wild with this 'Mantilla' pattern - and that is where the name originated. Soon thereafter, many hybrids from Asia would also get this label because of the similar color pattern to what was known in the hobby as 'Mantilla'.. I have also heard that they stay small, in the 14" range, but unless you can definitively prove that the ray was harvest out of the wild from Brazil, it could just be a guessing game when it comes to genetics and max size. Not to mention, there is a good possibility that some rays we call mantilla might be a geographic morph, while other rays we call mantilla could be a product of hybridization in the wild.. because there are definitely some hybrids coming from asia that look identical to the 'mantilla' rays harvest from Brazil.
Sooo.. its possible that the true Mantilla that was harvested from a specific locale by Dr. Ross/Mantilla in the mid-90s may stay small - but at this point Mantilla should just be considered a generic term to describe rays with these type of patterns.