Marley Monster & Mogley Mayham
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jamie, you are the best. we all look amazing, especially the baby water monkeys. i'm really happy we're best buds and that we're all in this together. i feel really lucky, too.
jamie, you are the best. we all look amazing, especially the baby water monkeys. i'm really happy we're best buds and that we're all in this together. i feel really lucky, too.
There the coolest family members I've ever had...they all act so different...there all so perfect...I can't wait until the newbie gets a cool name and a booty...
your rays are beautiful...send me babies 
i can't wait for the pond...and babies im ISO one more female... its a honor to have a aquatic genious on my thread the eel and trigger are also amazing...id probably faint if i seen your tanks in real life. when are you visiting MD again?
i can't wait for the pond...and babies im ISO one more female... its a honor to have a aquatic genious on my thread the eel and trigger are also amazing...id probably faint if i seen your tanks in real life. when are you visiting MD again?Having trouble with my control panel so answering your PM here.
In this hobby I have recognized that the more I learn..... The more I realize how little I know.
It is a very humbling endeavour. But, there are many hobbyists on this site that I find really help out.
Since I attended the Stingray Symposium in Chicago last August I really don't know what species any of my rays are anymore ( It was confusing). Frank and Nico the world’s super ray breeders (Their complex they built in the Netherlands includes many tanks and a Ray/Arawana 26,500 gallon tank) were speakers at the Symposium. You and your friend Ashley would have enjoyed pictures and videos of their incredible ray collection and the hundreds of babies they produce each month. One month they sold 42 baby leopoldi they bred to just one buyer...................
My big guy I bought as a leopoldi-henlyi. But I am not sure. My rays did breed in the 15k in 2003. Friends were able to get 2 babies out of the tank using nets on 15' to 18' extensions. It was amazing they survived at all with the predators in the tank.
I raised the rays and then without ever knowing why, they died in 2006/7. I lost my breeder female (22 to 24") in 2007. The big male is too tough on females to try breeding her with my 12' motoro? female. I do have a 10" male motoro? who just developed his claspers (bought as a young female) and I will try and breed him with a couple of similar size females in the future.
The biologists from Brazil (Incredible Stingray scientists) at the Symposium had major problems identifying the rays because so many are and have been misidentified in the publications. A married couple (both have Phd's in biology) from Brazil and speaking at the S and spending 10 months of every year for a few years in the rainforest studying just rays in 2 different river systems in Brail explained to us that the Stingray family needs a complete revision as to genus and species. They explained in layman's terms the complexity of determining of even them having problems when trying to place the rays into species. They mentioned to us the familiar white spotted leopoldi also could be found with colour patterns that have yellow dots and could easily be misidentified as henlyi. Also most stingrays sold in the hobby as hysterix ..... were not. They said they encounter more orbignyi species when studying rays in the wild than any other but I have never even seen one listed where I live. The orbignyi species is neat because the biologists have observed them coming out of the water and on to the river banks at night catching terrestrial insects.
As for my health improving I will take a passage out of Macbeth written by my favourite concealed poet.
"To-morrow, and to-morrow and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time."*
At least that what it seems as I wait to get better.
Your pond plan (your pm) sound fantastic.
As do your holiday ones and I am sure you will have a blast. *
In this hobby I have recognized that the more I learn..... The more I realize how little I know.
It is a very humbling endeavour. But, there are many hobbyists on this site that I find really help out.
Since I attended the Stingray Symposium in Chicago last August I really don't know what species any of my rays are anymore ( It was confusing). Frank and Nico the world’s super ray breeders (Their complex they built in the Netherlands includes many tanks and a Ray/Arawana 26,500 gallon tank) were speakers at the Symposium. You and your friend Ashley would have enjoyed pictures and videos of their incredible ray collection and the hundreds of babies they produce each month. One month they sold 42 baby leopoldi they bred to just one buyer...................
My big guy I bought as a leopoldi-henlyi. But I am not sure. My rays did breed in the 15k in 2003. Friends were able to get 2 babies out of the tank using nets on 15' to 18' extensions. It was amazing they survived at all with the predators in the tank.
I raised the rays and then without ever knowing why, they died in 2006/7. I lost my breeder female (22 to 24") in 2007. The big male is too tough on females to try breeding her with my 12' motoro? female. I do have a 10" male motoro? who just developed his claspers (bought as a young female) and I will try and breed him with a couple of similar size females in the future.
The biologists from Brazil (Incredible Stingray scientists) at the Symposium had major problems identifying the rays because so many are and have been misidentified in the publications. A married couple (both have Phd's in biology) from Brazil and speaking at the S and spending 10 months of every year for a few years in the rainforest studying just rays in 2 different river systems in Brail explained to us that the Stingray family needs a complete revision as to genus and species. They explained in layman's terms the complexity of determining of even them having problems when trying to place the rays into species. They mentioned to us the familiar white spotted leopoldi also could be found with colour patterns that have yellow dots and could easily be misidentified as henlyi. Also most stingrays sold in the hobby as hysterix ..... were not. They said they encounter more orbignyi species when studying rays in the wild than any other but I have never even seen one listed where I live. The orbignyi species is neat because the biologists have observed them coming out of the water and on to the river banks at night catching terrestrial insects.
As for my health improving I will take a passage out of Macbeth written by my favourite concealed poet.
"To-morrow, and to-morrow and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time."*
At least that what it seems as I wait to get better.
Your pond plan (your pm) sound fantastic.
As do your holiday ones and I am sure you will have a blast. *
