Maryland closes stripped bass season!
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NativePredator;4877036; said:Why are they doing it, are the fish populations down, for some reason, heck i guess i could look all this up myself somewhere, but i figure ill get the straight of it here
The juvi. population of Striped Bass have been declining in the Chesapeke bay for four consecutive years according to the harvest data available. The reason for the decline is very simple: Overfishing!
If you are to ascess the percentage of blame between the two industries (commercial & recreational) for this sustained decrease IMO it would shake out something like 90% Commercial and 10% recreational.
IMO there is less than NO excuse for exterminating a wild fishery when fish farming has come far enough to produce a continuous supply for our population in the USA. Ultimately, the blame rests on the spoiled American consumer. If there was NOT a market for the product, than the commercial industry catering to there needs ceases to exist!
As much disdain as I have for the commercial fishing industry, I do accept that it is NOT their fault for the depleation of the fisheries worldwide! Consumers have to understand that THEY ARE DRIVING the business! The next time that you sit down to a meal that includes an endangered species, just remember that you are in the problem and not the solution.
Catch your own fish or be cool with farm rasied! If we could market snakehead as a top dollar delicasy in Maryland, than the lard arses would finance a fleet of commercial fishing vessles sure to purge the maryland waters of the invasive within one single year!
YOOPER;4878492; said:
Whatever, You can deny the nearly twenty F'ing year TOTAL STRIPED BASS MORETORIUM that we lived through here in Maryland already. You call in B.S., but regardless of where you decide to plant your head it is nothing short of 100% complete and total FACT! This meant that there was NO LEGAL catch of Stripped Bass in Maryland Waters by NEITHER commercial nor recreational fisherman. While they were serious about restoreing the population of rockfish in the bay, the fish was also not offered in the supermarkets to Maryland residents to avoid the temptation of corruption and greed by commercial fishermen to catch the fish in the bay anyway and then just lie and say that they were imported from another state.
Since you have OBVIOUSLY never had to live through a SUSTAINED TOTAL MORETORIUM, I would not expect you to believe that it is possible that it can happen again. However those of us that ARE INDEED familiar with the reality of a TOTAL MORETORIUM, and involved in the sport have excellent reason to be "freaking out" at this time!
screaminleeman;4875935; said:
Might want to clarify that before you go out on the water. Are you planning on guiding "sports" for stripers? I would assume this falls under recreational fishing and the associated regulations vs the commercial hook and line fishery.
The quota will be deducted from the commercial gill net fishery. Last I looked, commercial hook and line limits had not been determined yet.
screaminleeman;4878378; said:
The juvenile catch data is based on biological data, not commercial data. The striped bass juvenile abundance index is down for most states.
There is more to this issue than commercial fishing. Look up dead zones in Chesapeake Bay, pollution in Chesapeake Bay, mycobacteriosis in striped bass, and striped bass hooking mortality.
Through out this thread you have blamed the commercial fishing industry for the demise of fisheries. Now it is the consumer? Do you have any idea how much the commercial fisheries influence the economy in this country? And last I checked, endangered species are not offered for sale for food on a regular basis.
One final thought; Yes, people are part of the problem (actually a big part), but we are also the solution.
screaminleeman;4878617; said:
It is true commercial fishing nearly wiped out stripers in the 1970's; the ban on fishing is most likely what saved them. If it wasn't for the ban, then you probably wouldn't be catching them today. I suppose another ban is possible, but not likely at this time.
I denied no such thing. I merely pointed out that as far as the site you yourself directed me to recreational fishing was not banned. In short when you make a post about something that has not happened (yet or at all) you are making stuff up. I never said it will not happen or has not happened in the past, I'm just pointing out that since you offer no proof of a current ban on rec fish I assume you are lying or are somehow Michel de Nostredame reincarnated. If so sent me the hat I love it.
In CT striped bass or some other cause and decimating alewife/blueback herring stocks. Hope they NEVER closed the season here.
Stripers lay eggs in rivers that are tributaries to the ocean (like Chesepeake Bay and its tributary the Potomoc) where the eggs hatch and become YOY; some of those rivers are now overrun with the large aggressive Snakeheads (the Potomoc and some of its tributaries). According to studies done on snakehead by the virginia DNR Snakehead are mainly eating fish (90% of their diet).....stripers do not guard their young and Im sure Snakeheads are one of the reasons for the decline in Striper young, maybe even more so than fisherman.
Leeman you really trip me out, you want to save the Northern Snakehead which is a species of least concern according to fishbase and is well established in many countries.....and yet you dont want a fishing ban to preserve the Striper fishery; and your mad at Maryland for doing research to assess whos at fault and what they can do about it, which from what Ive read they havent even decided yet. I think you forgot one of your pills.....or at least to check the facts before you go around ranting and raving about something.screaminleeman;4878617;4878617 said:
