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OP, you said "parameters are ammonia 0 nitrites .25 nitrates 20", which reads to me that you tested the water after the die off. If that's the case than your test provided false readings - since 0 ammonia in a tank with a handful of dead fish is next to impossible. So, what chemicals are you using in your tank that provided the false reading?

If all of that is true, than you were getting false readings for a while. The new fish was the first to die, from Ammonia poisoning (like maybe he came from a clean tank and went into the high ammo tank and it shocked him to death). The additional ammonia released from his dead body killed everyone else (they may have been close to the tipping point anyway). Did you notice, at any point from Sunday to Tuesday that the other fish were hanging at the bottom of the tank? This would indicate a higher-than-they're-used-to ammonia.

If your water is as jacked up as it appears to be, the amount of bio-balls you're using is not sufficient. I would recommend you switch to pond matrix and pot scrubbies in the canister, this mix is several dozen times as effective as bio balls.

Good luck, that definately sucks.
 
OP, you said "parameters are ammonia 0 nitrites .25 nitrates 20", which reads to me that you tested the water after the die off. If that's the case than your test provided false readings - since 0 ammonia in a tank with a handful of dead fish is next to impossible. So, what chemicals are you using in your tank that provided the false reading?

If all of that is true, than you were getting false readings for a while. The new fish was the first to die, from Ammonia poisoning (like maybe he came from a clean tank and went into the high ammo tank and it shocked him to death). The additional ammonia released from his dead body killed everyone else (they may have been close to the tipping point anyway). Did you notice, at any point from Sunday to Tuesday that the other fish were hanging at the bottom of the tank? This would indicate a higher-than-they're-used-to ammonia.

If your water is as jacked up as it appears to be, the amount of bio-balls you're using is not sufficient. I would recommend you switch to pond matrix and pot scrubbies in the canister, this mix is several dozen times as effective as bio balls.

Good luck, that definately sucks.

I got the water tested at 2 lfs and did my own testing so im pretty sure its not false. All fish were active and swimming around like usual..water before had been testing ammonia 0 nitrites 0 nitrates 20-40...the new guy was sluggish but that was only because of the move and he was a little rough from that but nothing life threatening


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nothing life threatening

LMFAO Really?

It doesn't matter who tested the water since there's no such thing as ----> 0 ammonia in a tank that's been sitting full of dead fish. You're using a chemical that's causing the false reading, figure out what it is.

You just told us that "ammonia 0 nitrites 0 nitrates 20-40" yet in your first post you said "ammonia 0 nitrites .25 nitrates 20". Assuming that was the before and after tests, those numbers confirm everything I said.
 
Thanks guys for all the theories but I've concluded that we'll probably never know...now its just easier for me to get out of the hobby..


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Don't get discuraged. There is no reason to get out of the hobby. We all make mistakes, we've all had things go wrong we didn't understand it's all part of the learning curve. When I see a 15 year old excited about this hobby I think it's great and shows me the next generation is comming up to our place. Don't even think about leaving the hobby over this. These are unfortunatly not the last fish that will die on your watch but there are also many successes ahead of you. MFK is here to help you now and learn from you in the future.
 
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