May I introduce......my P14

[StefanW]

I wish you still had the Argentina Hystrix though!

hmmm, yes, I also feel a little bit stupid about giving him away
But I was not able to combine him with other ray, because he always tried to copulate with all my other ray, even with my Leopoldis he did not harm the other rays, but I was not really keen on hybrids with him and was not able to get a suitable female for him, so I gave him away.

Regards
Stefan

 

[StefanW]

Hi all,

thank you very much for the compliments about my rays and YES, I am very proud of this collection

They are all doing very very well and now I am sitting in front of my tanks almost all day long (except during work), hoping, that the males are beginning to get interested in their playmates soon

Here another shot which is a few months older and shows the ray before I've put them alone, into a pure P14 system.
Combined with my Leos, the P14 unfortunatly always had little problems with worms on their gills, maybe because of stress. They've always been eating well, but often some of them were only breathing over one side.......that got boring due time and so I seperatd them, treated them with Praziquantel for three times within 8 days and now everything is finehope everything stays fine............

Regards
Stefan

 

[Mark Huveneers]

Hey Stefan,

nice development on the henXleo. Do they all turn out looking that way or does it vary alot? I'd like to see you rebreed that with a leo again. Reminds me of something...

Greetings Mark

 

[StefanW]

Hi Mark,

Do they all turn out looking that way or does it vary alot?

No, they do not really vary a lot. I would rather say, that they are always looking more or less the same type......have a look at those, they are from two batches out of two females but all from the same father:
One especially nice of these two batches, I've also kept and he is swimming by a friend of mine, near me. But unfortunatly, I do not have a picture here at the moment But I'll try to make one soon.....

 

[Mark Huveneers]

How old is the Hybrid?

 

[StefanW]

I'd like to see you rebreed that with a leo again. Reminds me of something...

Yes, I want to rebreed with Leos in a few years, but it'll take time.....
They remind you of something? Do you mean Rob's special Henlei?

Regards
Stefan

 

[StefanW]

How old is the Hybrid?

Born on 05. November 2007
and already 10-11 inch in diameter (26-28cm)......that's what I call a real heterosis effect ;-)
But it was already born with about 6 inch (16cm's)!!!

 

[Mark Huveneers]

Actually I was thinking more in the line of the "well dotted" leos, nowadays they get called alot of things, but they all seem to have the Henlei underside.

 

[Mark Huveneers]

Thats huge for such a young ray! My little princess on the avatar is 9 months old and about 10-12 cm. Some difference!

 

[StefanW]

Ah yes, you're right, me and Adam also already noticed, that they look a bit like those leos and indeed, this hybrid is also already getting a well spotted underside! This well spotted leos are coming from the upper xingu river, which partly runs very close to Rio Tocantins tributaries, which means not far from the habitats where Pot. henlei comes from........if this has something to say, I do not know

I think you mean a leo like the one I am attaching now. You've already been seen this animal, as we've been barbecueing in austria last may, but now, he's swimming here in my tanks for almost one year now

Regards
Stefan