my midas was a mean pecker, he made my male devil try to fly out of the tank constantly hehe but then again my lil female beats him time to time also. I got a Dovii pair and the male is starting to get pretty agressive 
mean cichlid
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piranha45 said:
I have kept all the species mentioned excluding temensis. H.fasciatus are grossly overated in aggresion. They are only hyper aggresive toward other similar looking fish. Otherwise I consider them a better equiped salvini. The emperor cichlids that I kept are also agggresive towards each other they could not give a lick about other fish unless they could eat it. T.dhonti are rough for sure however when not spawning they are on par with chipokae. Chipokae are mean indeed and they are aggresive towards all fish however they seem to calm down in a properly stocked tank. Temensis as I hear are quite aggresive when breeding and will ram fish to death. But then again a full grown temensis will weigh over 10 pounds so it would not have to try hard to take out other fish in a aquarium setting. This is rather puzzling because unlike largemouth bass in the wild who will stand their ground when guarding fry, temensis will flee with their babies rather stand there ground, Like so many other species do.
In my opinon dovii,festae and umbie are tops in aggresion
fasciatus get large enough to demolish any salvini ever to swim in water. not that they are that aggressive, but size wise they get BIG. elongatus are meaner but smaller. dovii rules hands down. ive had mean ass devils and midas', but even the 16 to 20" devils and midas' they had at steinhart aquarium were no match for a full sized male dovii. they have the size and dentition to destroy **** quickly. devils and midas get mean at a younger smaller age. you take a mature dominant dovii and a mature dominant devil/midas, and it would be an embarrasement to devil/midas fans. of wich i am one myself. but be honest look at that bastards teeth. add some size and aggression to that and you got a bad ass muthafuka.
CentralMayhem said:
You misunderstand me. When I said they are better equiped salvini I meant they are better equiped in everyway size, speed and power included. Although only when full grown. Although elongatus are certainly more aggresive both are hyped in the aggresion department IME. And somehow frempongi have been hyped in recent years as being the most aggresive of the three when they are in reality the least aggresive. When it comes to pure destroying power dovii are indeed tops. Trimacs and festae can also wipe out other fish in a flash as well.
Beani are different story. I have heard that there legendary aggresion is hyped from a few people that I know who have kept adults. Although they are still a very aggresive fish.
Fossochromis rostratus - Just doesn't give up, even more so then the large malawi 'Haps'.
Dovii, Umbee, Flowerhorns, Festae, Red Devils, Midas (in that order).
If size isn't an issue, Hericthys (Nandopsis) bartoni are super mean, convicts, many of the Mbuna tribe.
I think a lot of what makes a super 'killer' fish is actually having a smaller, more powerful mouth with a big attitude. How many times have people tried mixing Oscars and Red devils only to have the red devils snap the lower mandible of the oscar when they lip lock? Now I don't mix them unless the size differences doesn't warrant the oscar challenging the centrals.
I also find that the tank size plays a huge part in determining aggression. In my 230, my midas are pussycats. Put them in a 50 or 90 gallon, and it can only be a 1 fish aquarium sooner or later. In a 50 gallon, I would bet on the midas overtaking the Dovii, but in a 230, I am sure the dovii would beat out the devil. Anyone experience this? I don't really notice Doviis getting any more aggressive in a smaller tank. Might just be my with a fairly 'tame' Dovii.
Dovii, Umbee, Flowerhorns, Festae, Red Devils, Midas (in that order).
If size isn't an issue, Hericthys (Nandopsis) bartoni are super mean, convicts, many of the Mbuna tribe.
I think a lot of what makes a super 'killer' fish is actually having a smaller, more powerful mouth with a big attitude. How many times have people tried mixing Oscars and Red devils only to have the red devils snap the lower mandible of the oscar when they lip lock? Now I don't mix them unless the size differences doesn't warrant the oscar challenging the centrals.
I also find that the tank size plays a huge part in determining aggression. In my 230, my midas are pussycats. Put them in a 50 or 90 gallon, and it can only be a 1 fish aquarium sooner or later. In a 50 gallon, I would bet on the midas overtaking the Dovii, but in a 230, I am sure the dovii would beat out the devil. Anyone experience this? I don't really notice Doviis getting any more aggressive in a smaller tank. Might just be my with a fairly 'tame' Dovii.
Thats the thing about midas and devils. All they need is some space and they are calm. Small tanks do not provide enogh space so they are hyper aggresive. But put them in a tank with enough space and they are almost shy. Dovii on the other hand base there territory on the space avaliable. They will be just as aggresive in a 125 as in 265. Thats why they are held in higher regard that midas and devils on the aggresion scale.
