Measuring Fish

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pcfriedrich

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In the short time I've been on here, I've seen a couple of small debate on how to measure a fish. I've also seen people debating what the max potential size of a species is, and I bet that (at least sometimes) that debate based on how the fish is measured. I found this, thought it might be useful, at least for some:
Source:http://floridafisheries.com/Fishes/anatomy.html
Common Measurements
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The above image depicts the most commonly used measurements for fish. All freshwater Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission regulations and the "Big Catch" program depend on "total length." The total length is the maximum length of the fish with the mouth closed and the tail fin pinched together. The best way to obtain this length is to push the fish's snout up against a vertical surface with the mouth closed and the fish laying along a tape measure, then pinch the tail fin closed and determine the total length (see animated illustration), do NOT pull a flexible tape measure along the curve of the fish.

Conversely, most marine (saltwater regulations) refer to the "fork length", and scientists often use "standard length" which is to the end of the fleshy part of the body. "Standard length" has the advantage of not being affected by minor damage to the tail fin, nor does it give too much credit to a fish for the relatively light weight tail when calculating a fish's condition.

"Girth" is best measured with a fabric ruler, such as tailors use. It can also be determined by drawing a string around the fish at its widest point marking where the string overlaps and then measuring the distance between the overlapping points on a conventional ruler. Knowing the girth is important when trying to certify a fish for a record, and provides useful information to biologists about the relative condition of a fish.

Using total length and girth you can get a rough estimate of a fish's weight using various formulas.
 
So, In order to measure our fishies, we have to take them out of the water and close their mouths and bend their fins? Sounds like how to measure fish that you catch for fishing rather than in the aquarium.
 
Yep, that's what you have to do!

No, my dear. How do you measure your fish now? You take a good estimate, right? But what do you measure? this diagram makes it easier to be more specific. you can specify if you are measuring total length, fork length, or standard length.

I just brought this up because I see people arguing over max size of species, and such, and I know they're just getting their measuring standards confused. getting lost in translation, as it were.

if you pay attention to the chart, you can say that "my dovii is 16", total length" or you could say "my dovii is 13", standard length". Its the same fish, but a completely different visualization to the reader, unless you are specific on your method of measurement.

I'm not advocating unnecessarily netting your fish just to get a silly measurement.
 
Very good information....a highly debated topic indeed.:popcorn:
 
a rough estimate is the only safe way you can measure your aquarium fish.unless you want to stress/remove slime or just plain torture your fish.just don't over estimate....you will get flamed...lol...and by the way pcfriedrich.very good information.thanx
 
Helpful info, I think it would pertain more to sport fish that are caught. I occassionally measure my fish if they are already netted, for the most part though I just estimate their length.
 
I always though fish keepers referred to the 'standard length' (with out tail) and fishermen referred to the 'total length' (with tail pinched and stretched out as much as possible, then slightly exaggerated by 15%).
I guess here people have the 'bigger is better' attitude and tend to go with the fisherman-type measurements....
 
David R;1717467; said:
I guess here people have the 'bigger is better' attitude and tend to go with the fisherman-type measurements....

Nah. You see both on here. I personally being a guy that loves to fish (and I was doing it long before I was keeping fish), I would measure total length. But as already said, I don't understand the need to put them through the unnecessary stress, so I'll rough it.
 
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