Medium cichlid schooling fish

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I am still working on building my 700g large cichlid/monster tank, but as I have been watching some of my small cichlids grow out I have decided to keep back my Astronotus Crassipinnis (smaller cousin of the Oscar) and Uaru from the big tank because I am not sure if either species will thrive in with all the big/aggressive fish. I have had the Crassipinnis over a year and they are still only 4-5in, while the normal Oscars I got later, at smaller sizes are way bigger. Based on this growth pattern I just don't see the Crassipinnis getting much over 8 inches, or if they do it will be far slower than a normal Oscar. I think I am going to remove most the fish from my 160g tank (45g sump) and redesign it around these two species (plus the Krobia Xing that are already in there). This will enable me to keep the temp higher than the monster tank, and take the worry out of the big fish killing my two favorite species. I need to add more flow, but the sump holds a ton of biomedia and I use pothos to keep nitrates down, so I'm not concerned about bioload.

But anyway, I like having a school of fish in most my tanks, because when you pick the right species it seems to pull the tank together, and help it look more "organized." But I'm running into a block trying to pick a schooling fish for this tank... I would kind of prefer to keep to SA, because even though it is not a true biotope... but I can't think of species that would be good, that I also like. Based on the behavior I have seen with my Crassipinnis, I think any schooling fish 3-4inches+ (depending upon body shape) would be safe, even when the Crassi's reach full size, and I don't want fish much bigger than that (5 inch max).

Any ideas?? Rare is ok, as long as they aren't ridiculously expensive or hard to track down. I actually really enjoy have rare/unusual fish in my tanks.

These are all I have thought of so far:
Common Silver dollars - don't really like looks and supposed to be pigs
Buenos Aries Tetra - not sure if it would be good for them to be kept at 78-80F... Thoughts??
Giant Danio- Not SA fish
Denison's Barb - Ditto, also worried they would grow too slowly
Filament Barb - also not SA, but I really love how they look - almost willing to forget the SA thing
Congo Tetra - Again, not SA, though beautiful

So unless you guys can suggest some fish I cam somehow overlooking, I may just forget doing a loose "biotope"...

Ideas please!!
 
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Hit all the major dither fish I can think of accept what I'm gonna try and do, tiger silver dollars. They are abit costly though... Also, can we get some pics? I'd love to see them!
 
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Is this for the 165 or the 700 and what will be the largest most predatory fish in with them?

I like your idea of keeping it SA. Something about that is always more appealing to my eye as well.

A few fish to consider while keeping it SA.

- tetragonopterus argenteus (Rapps gets these from time to time)
- bracychalcinus retrospina. (Rapps has them now. )
- triportheus angulatus (Rapps has these now)
- various silver dollars (facials and shomburki are available through many sellers now. Red hooks you can find at any decent lfs)

If you don't need them to school in a tight pack and just want something that breaks up the look of a cichlid tank, you can try:
- chalceus microlepidotus (Pink tailed chalceus. Jeff a d wetspot have them now)
- semiprochilodus sp. (Jeffects has them along with a few others)

One other fish to consider depending one what you are planning to keep with them, are angelfish. These were my dithers for my pikes and they've worked great.
 
One more to get if you can find them are various astyanax. These are found throughout SA and CA and look like giant Buenos Aries tetras.
 
Wow, thanks, you hit on some that I haven't heard of! I'm looking into them! I want the dither fish for the 160g; the 700g isn't completed yet. Right now thank holding thank the Crassi's are in is so ugly I don't really want to pictures, haha! well if I clean the glass and put a light on top I can maybe get a decent pic... It was supposed to be for just a month or two til the big tank was done... but you know how project tend to take longer than you think!
 
Well I love those T. angulatus, but I unfortunately they are in the range I would consider too expensive for a schooling fish... at $30 bucks a pop it'd take over $300 to make a decent school. I might pay that much for single specimen fish, but for a group it is just too costly for me now... Rapps tends to be a bit pricey for me, though Wetspot or someplace like that seems to have better deals. I would prefer something around $10 each, preferably under. That said if they would show up on normal LFS stock lists regularly (versus having to order them online), my LFS can order them for me and in that case I could go for something more expensive, because he gives me really good deals and usually only marks them up $1-2 from wholesale price.

I saw Exodon tetras online and thought I'd found my fish until I read about their temperament! Crazy!
 
Ahhh, I think I may have found my fish, though I'm not sure how readily available or expensive they are ...

Anostomus anostomus: AKA Striped Headstander
Gets about 6 inches, from SA, and good looking! Anyone had them?

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http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/anostomus-anostomus/
 
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Ahhh, I think I may have found my fish, though I'm not sure how readily available or expensive they are ...

Anostomus anostomus: AKA Striped Headstander
Gets about 6 inches, from SA, and good looking! Anyone had them?

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http://www.seriouslyfish.com/species/anostomus-anostomus/

I've always wanted these as well but I hear they can be nippy. May not be a problem for larger cichlids. I thought About Adding them to my tank as well.

All the headstander and anostomids seem really cool. I'm interested to see how they work out.
 
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