na i paid like $300 for him 14 months ago at about 8" next will be a redtailed gold (rtg) my big tank is 220 gal, then a 90 gal and i have 2 55 gal tanks as well. i'll post some more pictures tonight. I m also working on a new moonlight set up for my big tank. i also moderate on another site called Hardcore aquatics but it doesn't have a large following like this and i'm reall the only big fish keeper on the site.