Agree, but the fish in question can (oscar). I do agree that they shouldn't in an aquarium (too messy) but I don't think that people should get themselves in a twist over it.Cichlaholics Anonymous;2293574; said:
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Ive not personally seen the You Tube videos of Oscars eating mice
and Im not interested in looking either
But anyway
I think its wrong to kill stuff for your own twisted amusement Which includes feeding mice to your Oscars
If youre convinced that dropping a pinkie (or similar) into your Oscar tank is somehow good for him, I see no ethical reason to argue with you. But to drop an adult mouse in a fish tank to watch it get ripped apart well I think that says something about your personality and its not a compliment
I think its wrong to kill stuff for your own twisted amusement Which includes feeding mice to your Oscars
If youre convinced that dropping a pinkie (or similar) into your Oscar tank is somehow good for him, I see no ethical reason to argue with you. But to drop an adult mouse in a fish tank to watch it get ripped apart well I think that says something about your personality and its not a compliment
Peeps gotta stop arguing the "it's not natural to stick a little fish in with a big fish in a glass box for the big fish to eat" point because if you're gonna say that then it makes you appear slightly idiotic (no offense to anyone) because:
1. You yourself are keeping a large predatory fish (I assume) in a glass box which is hardly an exact replica of the Amazonian River Basin or whatever body of water your fish came from.
2. I suppose that fish eat prepared pellets packed with all of the essential vitamins, some spirulina, and whatever else goes into the "complete" pellet, in the wild?
Also, in my experience, the fish I've kept seem to grow fastest/best when fed mainly live food. Granted, I've stopped doing that due to the expenses of feeding live 24/7, it doesn't change the fact that the best growth rates I've ever seen were on the live diet. Not to mention the best way to condition fish for breeding is with live food, IME.
Also, predatory fish seem to never grow to their full potential in the home aquariums, despite all of the technological advancements in the fish keeping field, the "superior" scientifically formulated pellets, a controlled environment, fresh uncontaminated water with every water change. Yeah, the size of the environment plays a large part too, but the diet is also just as important IMO.
But yeah, anyways, feeding a mouse to an oscar is just wrong.
1. You yourself are keeping a large predatory fish (I assume) in a glass box which is hardly an exact replica of the Amazonian River Basin or whatever body of water your fish came from.
2. I suppose that fish eat prepared pellets packed with all of the essential vitamins, some spirulina, and whatever else goes into the "complete" pellet, in the wild?
Also, in my experience, the fish I've kept seem to grow fastest/best when fed mainly live food. Granted, I've stopped doing that due to the expenses of feeding live 24/7, it doesn't change the fact that the best growth rates I've ever seen were on the live diet. Not to mention the best way to condition fish for breeding is with live food, IME.
Also, predatory fish seem to never grow to their full potential in the home aquariums, despite all of the technological advancements in the fish keeping field, the "superior" scientifically formulated pellets, a controlled environment, fresh uncontaminated water with every water change. Yeah, the size of the environment plays a large part too, but the diet is also just as important IMO.
But yeah, anyways, feeding a mouse to an oscar is just wrong.
Fish on Fire;2296243; said:Peeps gotta stop arguing the "it's not natural to stick a little fish in with a big fish in a glass box for the big fish to eat" point because if you're gonna say that then it makes you appear slightly idiotic (no offense to anyone) because:
1. You yourself are keeping a large predatory fish (I assume) in a glass box which is hardly an exact replica of the Amazonian River Basin or whatever body of water your fish came from.
2. I suppose that fish eat prepared pellets packed with all of the essential vitamins, some spirulina, and whatever else goes into the "complete" pellet, in the wild?
Also, in my experience, the fish I've kept seem to grow fastest/best when fed mainly live food. Granted, I've stopped doing that due to the expenses of feeding live 24/7, it doesn't change the fact that the best growth rates I've ever seen were on the live diet. Not to mention the best way to condition fish for breeding is with live food, IME.
Also, predatory fish seem to never grow to their full potential in the home aquariums, despite all of the technological advancements in the fish keeping field, the "superior" scientifically formulated pellets, a controlled environment, fresh uncontaminated water with every water change. Yeah, the size of the environment plays a large part too, but the diet is also just as important IMO.
But yeah, anyways, feeding a mouse to an oscar is just wrong.
I think you miss the point. Keeping fish in a transparent box is not natural, regardless of how you look at it. But the majority of people who think that feeding fish feeders is natural are kidding themselves.
IMO, I'd say it's more natural than feeding a pellet. But then you'd have to do it right if you wanted to keep the fish healthy, still have to provide a variety, not just feeder gold fish. Gotta gut load them, the whole 9 yards.japes;2296269; said:
Also, one thing is, captive bred fish don't have the predatory tool sets that their wild counterparts do, they lose it because those big fangs and exceptionally powerful jaws aren't needed when all they're hunting are some pellets that are floating at the top of their tank. They lose their natural tool sets because Darwinism, natural selection, can't happen with captive bred fish. Whereas, in the wild, only the best equipped or the baddest fish lives to a ripe old age to pass on its superior predatory tool sets to its offspring because no fish can depend on pellets being thrown to them in the wild.
I know, it would still be the same, regardless, in captivity if you feed live or prepared because it is a small enclosed environment. Just saying though.
