Michael Vick should be MVP in 2010. He is the man!

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juneblood3;4725207; said:
Without vick in philly they wouldnt even be in the playoff talk.....without brady in New England somebody else would step in and do great because thats what the Patriots do. They have the best coaching in the NFL and prepare better than any other team. So my conclusion is Brady without Bill is like the Eagles without Vick...just average IMO.

philly has been great without vick for the last 10 years. new england without brady missed the playoff 2 years ago. it can just as easily be argue that philly has a great system in place, look at what andy reid did with mcnabb over all those years. Reid is just missing the superbowls, for awhile there, philly was on the nfc championship game every year
 
NFC was terrible back then it was like the eastern conference used to be on the NBA. Andy Reid is a good coach but the system they're using was meant for kevin kolb for the most part. I'm just not buying Tom Brady being great on any other team. And I think anybody that would have stepped in for drew Bledsoe would have beengreat because that's how the pats were setup. I've always hated MVP trophys and best player arguments because they're unwinable battles and there are always other factors in team sports but this year I cant help but argue for mike Vick I just do not see Kevin kolb putting them anywhere near where they are rigth now.
 
juneblood3;4732579; said:
NFC was terrible back then it was like the eastern conference used to be on the NBA. Andy Reid is a good coach but the system they're using was meant for kevin kolb for the most part. I'm just not buying Tom Brady being great on any other team. And I think anybody that would have stepped in for drew Bledsoe would have beengreat because that's how the pats were setup. I've always hated MVP trophys and best player arguments because they're unwinable battles and there are always other factors in team sports but this year I cant help but argue for mike Vick I just do not see Kevin kolb putting them anywhere near where they are rigth now.


What does Kolb have to do with the MVP? Its about numbers and winning games. And Brady has been better. There is nothing to argue here. Brady has had the best season period. And this is coming from a dude that HATES all boston sports. But be real they aint close and never will be. Being a great QB has nothing to do with speed or moves. Ya'll Vick lovers watch to much sports center. :nilly:
 
It's not about numbers it's the most valuable player and personally I think he's more valuable to his team than anybody else. I'd sy second is Troy Polomalu and third is Brady. But nobody on d ever gets the glory they deserve.

And the reason Vick has been so good is vecause he hasn't been runnig as much and has became a complete QB. And you contradicted yourself in your argument.
 
Vick is a great player. Everyone has done something wrong.If you have never did anything wrong cast the first stone.
 
juneblood3;4733548; said:
It's not about numbers it's the most valuable player and personally I think he's more valuable to his team than anybody else. I'd sy second is Troy Polomalu and third is Brady. But nobody on d ever gets the glory they deserve.

What do you mean its not about numbers? Value & numbers go hand & hand. Hell no player has "value" with terrible numbers.

Troy p cant even play a whole season. Hell he aint even the best safety. That's Ed Reed.
 
BigJ;4733577; said:
What do you mean its not about numbers? Value & numbers go hand & hand. Hell no player has "value" with terrible numbers.

Troy p cant even play a whole season. Hell he aint even the best safety. That's Ed Reed.


and when he doesnt play they lose to the jets. you have to be kidding me ed reed has been great but ray lewis gives that team confidence and "swag". If you dont think Palamalu is the best safety especially when he is healthy then you must not watch much football.

Offensive lineman and defensive lineman and average qb's (Dilfer) can have HUMUNGOUS value with bad numbers becasue its a team game. Even look at the saints without reggie bush. bush puts up average numbers but has such a major impact on their entire offense.

If sports were all based on numbers, especially football, then your saying Terrell Owens is the 3rd best reciever in the league this year until he got hurt? Or the QB from texas tech would win the Heisman each year. you make no sense.

Numbers dont mean **** if you cant get the team around you to play well and thats what Vick has done in Philly better than anybody has in the league. Confidence is the key to winning.
 
juneblood3;4734401; said:
and when he doesnt play they lose to the jets. you have to be kidding me ed reed has been great but ray lewis gives that team confidence and "swag". If you dont think Palamalu is the best safety especially when he is healthy then you must not watch much football.

Offensive lineman and defensive lineman and average qb's (Dilfer) can have HUMUNGOUS value with bad numbers becasue its a team game. Even look at the saints without reggie bush. bush puts up average numbers but has such a major impact on their entire offense.

If sports were all based on numbers, especially football, then your saying Terrell Owens is the 3rd best reciever in the league this year until he got hurt? Or the QB from texas tech would win the Heisman each year. you make no sense.

Numbers dont mean **** if you cant get the team around you to play well and thats what Vick has done in Philly better than anybody has in the league. Confidence is the key to winning.


Dilfer HUGE value huh?:ROFL::ROFL::ROFL:(he was let go after the championship)

Im not gonna fight with you son. Just trust me Vickey aint no Brady. :grinno:
 
nomad;4735159; said:
well said
No it wasn't..The man was thrown in jail and he quietly did his time.You all really need to stop acting as if he raped someone.
 
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